What's the origin of the Japanese people ?

[grapefruit]

I
contend that the Kaya dialect of the Korean language provided
the basic structure of the proto-Japanese language although
lexically (in loan words) and phonologically (in sound), the
influence of Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian languages was
substantial.

Can you clarify the status of the proto-Japanese language? Was it a pidgin/creol or a second language spoken by the speakers of the Kaya dialect or by the speakers of the an Ainu or Malayo-Polynesian language?

Syntactically (in patterns of word arrangement) and
morphologically (in systems of word formation), the similarity
between the Korean and Japanese languages was very much
strengthened. However, the lexical and phonological influence
of the Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian languages cast a long
shadow on the subsequent evolution of the Japanese language.
Therefore, by the early ninth century at the latest, due to ever
increasing lexical, semantic (in meaning) and phonological
differences, the people of the Korean peninsula and the people
of the Japanese islands could no longer directly communicate
with each other without interpreters.

This sounds like the Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian languages were the substrata of the proto-Japanese language. So, are you saying the proto-Japanese language started as a second language spoken by the Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian people?

[caster51]

i think Kaya ppl was wajin.
they were not Today's korean origin

[Adulado]

Can you clarify the status of the proto-Japanese language? Was it a pidgin/creol or a second language spoken by the speakers of the Kaya dialect or by the speakers of the an Ainu or Malayo-Polynesian language?



This sounds like the Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian languages were the substrata of the proto-Japanese language. So, are you saying the proto-Japanese language started as a second language spoken by the Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian people?

It was pretty much like the early Germanic migrants to UK who led a segregated life from natives and didn't mix (much) with them. Japanese commoners at that time didn't wear clothes, only nobles did.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5192634.stm

[caster51]

Japanese commoners at that time didn't wear clothes, only nobles did.

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[grapefruit]

It was pretty much like the early Germanic migrants to UK who led a segregated life from natives and didn't mix (much) with them. Japanese commoners at that time didn't wear clothes, only nobles did.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5192634.stm

If they were segregated, it does not make sense. Why were basic words vastly adopted from the Ainu and Malayo-Polynesian languages? In England, such adoption of words from the Celtic did not take place, did it?