It could be a sinking sun, depending on the perspective.Originally Posted by Astroboy
The Japanese 16-rays rising sun flag in Italy.
Some see it as a fashionable design?
Yes, and the flag should be officially banned in public places too, as was the Nazi flag in Germany
Yes, it is the equivalent of the Nazi swastika flag and is unacceptable in today's world
Yes, because it reminds Japan's neighbours of its past atrocities
Probably. It would be so easy to choose another naval ensign, even the "hinomaru" flag.
No, there is no valid reason to change Japan's naval flag.
No, it is a cultural symbol of Japan('s military)
No it stands for Japan's eternal Empire of the Rising Sun. Banzai !
No idea
Don't give a damn about the Japanese flags
It could be a sinking sun, depending on the perspective.The Japanese 16-rays rising sun flag in Italy.
Some see it as a fashionable design?
New design for the rising sun flag.
at F1 Suzuka Grand Prix in 2006.
Last edited by Astroboy; Nov 23, 2008 at 19:29. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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And Somebody made this .... at http://patdollard.com/2008/05/audacity-or-obamination/
Maybe Obama fits with it as he must be the rising sun in the country.
I personally believe that Tibetan's flag has some similarity with the Japanese rising sun flag.
This argument is very similar to the national flag argument that has long been discussed since the end of WW2 in Japan. Of course the difference is that this argument is about naval flag, but there is only a minor difference between national flag and naval flag especially since both are portrayal of Rising Sun anyway.
From what I skimmed so far, the misunderstandings or dissidents seems to come from the definition of "Imperialism". You can call territorial
expansion since acquisition of Taiwan(or Okinawa, if you wanna go extreme) "imperialism", and surely they were, but Japanese doesn't necessarily consider these as "atrocities" that we had commited.
So, I don't agree that the 16 rays rising sun only symbolizes japanese imperialsm.
It "also" symbolizes historic triumph of Combined fleet over Baltic fleet, and many other sacrifices that sailors dedicated to the country. Thus it conveys very emotional attachment from service men.
I see many people in this thread say that the naval flag is "trivial thing" and Japanese relation with Asia should be put more weights, but you know in your country how the war veterans and military officials respect their symbols and rituals. I don't see why it become "OK" to deprive them of those things if it's a trivial matter except for the military themselves, and possibly some other foreigners, who most likely are not the direct victims but more likely the youngsters susceptible to their own nationalism.
>2. Chinese did not need to go civil war, and not suffer from Cultural Revolution nor tyranny, either.
I'm completely clueless of where this comes from. Chinese were in civil war before the Empire invaded the mainland.
It is true that Chinese people would had not been suffered from Cultural Revolution without Japanese invasion, but same thing is true
if Allied Nations hadn't supported the Nationalists. And the reign of Nationalists were cruel too like Communists. Ask Taiwanese.
Those who bring up the resemblance to Nazi Swastika, check out the German Airforce's roundel(marking on airplanes).
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