Gang rape "virile and normal"

[lexico]

I am not sure what lexico is pointing at in my several posts in this (old) thread, as my posts were mostly unrelated to the original topic about gang rape.

I don't care how old a thread is. It is meant to go down in history, right? It was you who considered the two topics related as in your second post.

Maybe it is that Japanese women care less about having sex with strangers (you know all the teen prostitutes, called "enjo kosai") and Japanese men's rape is not that violent (just supposing).

I'm glad that you are now able to dissociate the two topics. As for the rest of your statement, I find no problem discussing it in another context. Yet I do find it a huge problem discussing it in this context of gang rape and Mr. Seiichi Ota. That's because, as you also are aware, context is everything.

[nurizeko]

gang rape is wrong, in any culture.


saying that, on the topic of sexuality and equality, japan is japan, and nobody has any right to expect japan to change to fit to your personal view on womens rights, with a japanese g/f i can assure you, their just as fiery spiritted as any western women, its not about equality, its about empathy, and japanese seem to have that, sadly the rampant feminization of the west coupled with our individualistic culture has created women who care for no-one but themselves, or at the least, are less aware of their actions, western men being no less guilty, its not suprising the divorce rates in western countries, especially america and britain, are so horrendous, when everyone is out for themselves, and the warped distorted view feminised women have that equality goes beyond fairness in society, to outright preference in their favour in every aspect.

of course not all women are like this, but in general the west is simply different then east asia, us westerners no longer take family values and empathy with others as seriously as east asian countries, where family is more important then life itself sometimes.

im happy with my japanese g/f because when a question is asked, it isnt "how can i gain from this?" but "how can WE gain from this?"





back on topic, again, gang rape is weak and pathetic, without needing to state the obvious that all rape is weak and pathetic.

[Maciamo]

gang rape is wrong, in any culture.

Wrong, but virile, and that's a respectable elderly politician who says it, so you should listen and do what he says.

its not about equality, its about empathy, and japanese seem to have that, sadly the rampant feminization of the west coupled with our individualistic culture has created women who care for no-one but themselves

That's a good point. Would you say that too much empathy can lead to a greater acceptance of rape ? (oh the poor old man hasn't shagged for 6 months, let's be empathic and let him do his stuff )

its not suprising the divorce rates in western countries, especially america and britain, are so horrendous

But Irish and Italian people are even more emphatic as the Japanese, as they have a much lower divorce rate.

back on topic, again, gang rape is weak and pathetic, without needing to state the obvious that all rape is weak and pathetic.

So I guess that if weak and pathetic peopel commit it, it becomes normal, which confirms the title.

Sorry about that.

[nurizeko]

rape is weak and pathetic, it doesnt matter if your japanese, american british or whatever, its effectivly doing someone against someones will, its the same as an un-aggrivated assault, its against the persons will, and effects them.

if a woman doesnt want to have sex, she doesnt want to have sex, its as simple as that and goes beyond cultural barriers, its the same as being assaulted, if i dont want my face punched in, then i have the right, not not expect it, or want it.

i agree to a degree that the east asian mentality on sex means to an extent, that at the least, a woman might decide not to report rape, or try and deny it away with things like "but maybe he was just lonely" and other things.

but still, i cant help but get the impression for the most part, an asian women who's been raped feels as dirty and ashamed and distressed as a western woman.

an asian person wouldnt like to be beaten up anymore then i would, and i guess the same goes for rape, an asian woman is no more inclined to like being raped any more then a western women.

but as for the gang-rape commentry, i do accept that to an extent, its based off of a mans possibly slightly distorted opinion of women, which he has developed from his perspective of his culture's opinion of women.

[Maciamo]

rape is weak and pathetic, it doesnt matter if your japanese, american british or whatever, its effectivly doing someone against someones will, its the same as an un-aggrivated assault, its against the persons will, and effects them.

I was just teasing you. Let's continue.

if a woman doesnt want to have sex, she doesnt want to have sex

Who tells you that the rapist asked if she wanted ? Given the high incidence of rape simulation in Japanese porn, could it be that some women actually fantasised about being raped ? Of course there is no way to know which ones.

but still, i cant help but get the impression for the most part, an asian women who's been raped feels as dirty and ashamed and distressed as a western woman.

Shame comes mostly from pride, and it seems that East Asian women are not as proud (and selfish) and many of those in English-speaking countries.

[isayhello]

Who tells you that the rapist asked if she wanted ? Given the high incidence of rape simulation in Japanese porn, could it be that some women actually fantasised about being raped ? Of course there is no way to know which ones.

First of all: Rape is sickening. The politician who made that comment about gang rape obviously has a problem. *angry*

There are indeed people who think of rape as a fetish, and enjoy rape simulations. Both men and women. But understand that the women thinking about gang rape as something sexually arousing would probably NOT think that way about being raped for real. There's a big difference between a rape simulation, as it is a rape under 'controlled conditions' in a way, and an actual rape. Women who are 'into' rape might not want to be raped for real...

Besides, those rape simulation porn videos are mostly directed to men...?

[Maciamo]

Besides, those rape simulation porn videos are mostly directed to men...?

Like all porn, but also made by women. Who would do such videos if they did not agree (even unconsciously) that it could incite some men to fantasised about rape, and that even themselves could possibly be raped for real by one of the people who watched the video then met them in the street ? They are weird and dangerous people everywhere. Women who do porn movies with rape simulation are either not afraid of being raped for real, or very irresponsible.