Koizumi gets emotional in Brazil

[lexico]

why are there so many Japanese in brazil ? Any specific reason ?

Wikipedia says, in Japanese-Brazilian;

Brazil is the Latin American country that has received the most ethnic Japanese immigrants, as well as the host country of the largest Japanese community outside Japan (numbering between 1.3 and 1.5 million). The first Japanese immigrants (mostly farmers) came to Brazil in 1908 on the Kasato Maru from the Japanese port of Kobe, moving to Brazil in search of better life conditions. Many of them (along with Chinese immigrants) ended up as laborers on coffee farms. At the time, Brazil was experiencing a shortage of farm workers and turned to European immigrants and then to an influx of Japanese workers to satisfy this demand. Some ethnic Japanese came from neighboring Spanish-speaking countries.

Some Japanese also went to Brazil from Macau in 1999, when Portugal returned the Asian colony to mainland China. These Japanese are descendants of Japanese Catholic refugees expelled by shoguns, and they can also speak Portuguese and its creole — Patuá — but speak Cantonese Chinese as an additional language rather than Japanese.

[pipokun]

Wikipedia says, in Japanese-Brazilian;

Just wondering why you picked up the 2nd quotation.

There must be Japanese offsprings in Macao, however more than 300 years ago... well, some of them might emigrate to Brasil as Japanese...
But had Portugese government been too cruel to accept the religious J refugees as citizens? Or have Japanese offsprings refused to assimilate to local communities there for such a long time?

After visiting my friends and talking to their parents and grandparents there, I'm pleased to say that I can share the Koizumi's feeling.
I'm sure that all Asian incl., Japanese can learn much from them for their diligence.

Interesting enough, there still remain some nikkei communities where people hold more J tradtions/values, but Liberdade in Sao Paulo, a well-known nikkei town with a shinto torii gate, is not the Japantown anymore.

It might be a good idea to browse what sort of person add the articles there. IP addresses doesn't tell everything, I know.

I'd really love to help the nihon matsuri in Sao Paulo soon again.

tchau, tchau.

[lexico]

Just wondering why you picked up the 2nd quotation.

The first quote was more or less parallel to Miss_Apollo's, with some different details, but the second seemed to be new info that could be added to the history of Japanese-Brazilians.

There must be Japanese offsprings in Macao, however more than 300 years ago... well, some of them might emigrate to Brasil as Japanese...
But had Portugese government been too cruel to accept the religious J refugees as citizens? Or have Japanese offsprings refused to assimilate to local communities there for such a long time ?

I wish I knew the details of it. Acc. to Wiki again on Macau;

The Macau Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China, （Chinese:中華人民共和� 澳門特別行政區） short form Macau or Macao (short form of Chinese: 澳門，also informally known as "馬交") (see Names), is a small territory on the southern coast of China. It is 70 km southwest of Hong Kong and 145 km from Guangzhou. It was the oldest European colony in China, dating back to the 16th century. The Portuguese government transferred sovereignty over Macau to the People's Republic of China in 1999, and it is now run as a Special Administrative Region of the PRC. Residents of Macau mostly speak Cantonese natively; Mandarin Chinese, Portuguese, and English are also spoken.

Broadly, Macanese refers to all permanent inhabitants of Macau. But narrowly, it refers to an ethnic group in Macau originating from Portuguese descent, usually mixed with Chinese blood.

The 1999 immigration to Brazil must have been prompted by the reversion of Macau to the PRC. Possibly for similar reasons that some Hong Kong residents sought immigration to Taiwan, Canada, the UK, or the US ? Your point on retaining Japanese identity for 300 yrs is interesting indeed; some parallel instances could be the Korean communities of porecelain craftsmen in Japan who were abducted in the two Choson-Nippon Wars of 1592 and 1597 who retained their Korean identity; another would be the Hakkas (Kejia 客家) who remained distinct from the aborigines of Southern China even after 1 1/2 millenia.

Demographics

Considered as a "dependency", Macau is the most densely populated of the countries/dependencies in the world.

Macau's population is 95% Chinese, primarily Cantonese and some Hakka, both from nearby Guangdong Province. The remainder are of Portuguese or mixed Chinese-Portuguese ancestry, or the so-called Macanese. Some Japanese, including descendants of Japanese Catholics who were expelled by shoguns, also live in Macau. The official languages are Portuguese and Chinese. Though the residents commonly speak Cantonese, both Cantonese and Mandarin are de facto official. English is spoken in tourist areas. Macanese or Patuá, an ancient Portuguese based dialect, is almost extinct.

If this paragraph can be taken verbatim, not all Macanese of Japanese descent went to Brazil, but some chose to remain.

After visiting my friends and talking to their parents and grandparents there, I'm pleased to say that I can share the Koizumi's feeling.
I'm sure that all Asian incl., Japanese can learn much from them for their diligence.

I agree; many Asians left their homes in the early 1900's to work in the plantations. Many suffered from inequality and discrimination, but there were also many who worked hard to establish their families and careers in their new environments. Although Mr. Koizumi might not be in the most favorable position to speak for all Asian immigrants to the New World, he is surely entitled to represent the Japanese people's feelings to share with Japanese-Brazilians.

Interesting enough, there still remain some nikkei communities where people hold more J tradtions/values, but Liberdade in Sao Paulo, a well-known nikkei town with a shinto torii gate, is not the Japantown anymore...I'd really love to help the nihon matsuri in Sao Paulo soon again.

Would that mean Japanese-Brazillians became more integrated into Brazilian society ? How did this Japantown cease to exist ?

It might be a good idea to browse what sort of person add the articles there. IP addresses doesn't tell everything, I know.

Is talking about the migration of Japanese Catholics under shogunate persecution considered inflammatory ? I don't think anyone is blaming the shogun for expelling them. If certain citizens fled persecution and went to Macau 300 yrs ago, are they still considered "traitors" for abandoning the homeland as they might have been treated 100 yrs ago ?

[bexchurnside]

Just wondering why you picked up the 2nd quotation.
There must be Japanese offsprings in Macao, however more than 300 years ago... well, some of them might emigrate to Brasil as Japanese...
But had Portugese government been too cruel to accept the religious J refugees as citizens? Or have Japanese offsprings refused to assimilate to local communities there for such a long time?

After visiting my friends and talking to their parents and grandparents there, I'm pleased to say that I can share the Koizumi's feeling.
I'm sure that all Asian incl., Japanese can learn much from them for their diligence.
Interesting enough, there still remain some nikkei communities where people hold more J tradtions/values, but Liberdade in Sao Paulo, a well-known nikkei town with a shinto torii gate, is not the Japantown anymore.
It might be a good idea to browse what sort of person add the articles there. IP addresses doesn't tell everything, I know.
I'd really love to help the nihon matsuri in Sao Paulo soon again.
tchau, tchau.

You know, if Brazil is a third world country or a second world one, and Japan is the first world one, why wouldnt all Japanese choose to retain their nationality through the lex sanguinis line? Being Japanese nationals, there is no way they can halt any of them from making ten times their wages, and can even lobby more rights in Shizuoka, Hamamatsu.

A Japanese nissei or sansei who is British, Canadian or American renouncing their nationalities I could understand as a perfectly normal situation, but Brazil is not exactly economically even. If they want to access Japan for migration, as they have actually done, why not just keep it rather than worrying about a Nikkeijin visa? To travel to USA or any other developed country, using a Brazilian passport is not favorable to a Japanese one, although the US, Canadian, or British passport offers every advantage over the Japanese one, if not equal.