What's the origin of the Japanese people ?

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YAYOI (KOREAN, chinese, continental-related) Japanese
I will complete my posts of noble Japanese by attaching the pictures of the people who are born in the country which is one of the closest to Korean Peninsula. Choshu.

Japanese Modernization actually comes from the union of Choshu (Yamaguchi-ken, Korea or Continental) and Satsuma (Kagoshima-ken, Native islanders such as Ainu, Ryukyuan, Jomon) Clan. It may be possible to compare the two? I think it is a nice idea to see the immediate differences with the earlier posted picture capturing only native islanders (mainly Satsuma clan).

Let's look at the central japanese people (Yayoi aka Korean), born in Choshu (Yamaguchi-ken). I chose them because of the traditional baku-han system which forbids the moving of people between state defined prefectures. These Samurai belong to their lords regardless of locations, so the most samurai forms secluded community based on some central isle lords like Ouchi, Mouri clans.

Ito Hirobumi, the first prime minister of Japan, born in Choshu


He is a central japanese from Yamaguchi-ken. Geographically, Yamaguchi is one of the closest country to Korea. He could be one of the Korean-origin Japanese.

His obsession with Korea is known by his infamous annexation of Korea.

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Another Yayoi (aka Korea, China, other continentals) Japanese, Born in Choshu
Okuma Shigenobu, The minister of Foreign Affair

He is from Choshu, Yamaguchi. He is a typical central Japanese.
His look is in contrast to those Shimazu-clan and northern japanese noble.

Katsura Taro, Prime Minister, Born in Choshu (Chinese, Korean, continental, related)



He is the most tactful politician devising the overthrow of Shogun Regime, and hand the power back to imperial family. He was sent to Germany to learn strategy and tactics.

As with Ito Hirobumi, the first prime minister of Japan, his background is humble, and from not so wealthy background.

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Now Let's assess the Chinese appearance. We'll take samples from the historical figures again for the reasons that they are less subject to the mixes with other asian, or even caucasoids. I tried to choose samples mostly from southern han chinese because of morphological results stating the closer proximity to general japanese population including both jomon and yayoi

Note: Northern and Southern han chinese comprises 90% of total population in china.

Yuan Shikai, Han Chinese General, Republic president, dictator and chinese emperor


K'ung Hsiang-hsi, Chinese Banker and Politician


Name: Sung Chiao-jen (1882–1913) Chinese revolutionary and political leader, later assasinated allegedly by Yuan Shikai.
Ethnicity: han chinese
BirthPlace: unknown
Lineage: unknown




Name: Hu, Die
Ethnicity: han chinese
BirthPlace: Shanghai?
Lineage: unknown



Name: Ruan Lingyu
Birthplace: Shanghai
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
Lineage: Unknown



Name: Chen Duxiu (1879–1942), founder of Chinese Communist Party (Anhui Patriotic Association), Controversial figure as he stayed in Japan for a while. Later became Trotskyist
Birthplaces: Anhui (Central China)
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
Lineage: Unknown




Name: Li Dazhao (1888-1927), Chinese intellectual who cofounded the Communist Party of China with Chen Duxiu in 1921. Studied Political Economy at Waseda University.
Birthplaces: Unknown
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
Lineage: Unknown



Name: Wang Ming (1904-1974) a senior leader of the early Chinese Communist Party (CCP)
Birthplace: Anhui
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
Lineage: Unknown




Name: Hu Shih (1891-1962) Chinese philosopher and essayist. He studied at Cornell and Columbia University. Known to be influenced by John Dewey. Important figure in May Fourth Movement.
Birthplace: Shanghai
Ethnicity: Han chinese
Lineages: Ancestry in Anhui

Chen_Duxiu and Hu Shih

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Mao Zedong, Chairman of the Communist Party of China




Sun Yat-sen


Zhou Enlai, Premier of People's Republic of China



Example Picture: (Information from wikipedia)
Name: General Chiang Kai-shek, leader of the Kuomintang
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
BirthPlace: Zhejiang Province.
Lineage: Jiangsu, juncture between North China and South China

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Observe that eyes of chinese are almost all double eyelids with obscure lines. Also, their facial structure especially around eyes and eyebrows are almost flat.

Now looking back japanese eyes, they don't usually have a double eyelid, but the facial surfaces between eyes and eyebrows are not flat, more depth in 3 dimension. Protruding eyebrow and sunken eyes.


JAPANESE FACE: (Ryukyuan/Ainu/Jomon)







CHINESE FACE:






SOUTHERN HAN CHINESE: Eyes are generally placed flat to the facial surface with the double eyelids. Also notice that eye and eyebrows are positioned on almost the same level, giving even flater impressions. The epicanthic fold are heavily expressed. Jaws are wider, and possibly roundly formed

JAPANESE: Eyes are placed deeper inside the skull, giving the sunken eyes with single eyelid, or double eyelids formed along with skull (in chinese face, double eyelids are simply formed with eye folds. Japanese double eyelids, if any, have a clear line aligned with skulls, and expressed outerior on the face surface as opposed to chinese interior eyelid). Epicanthic folds not highly expressed, but idyosyncrasies of eyes are expressed as the narrowly visible area of the eyes. Jaws are narrow, and possible crooked teeth are often observed