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    Are Chinese more favourable towards Americans or Japanese?

    Which culture does the Chinese in general have better opinions of?

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    There are about 1.3 billion people living in China, about 130 million in Japan and almost 300 million in the US. Your question seems to be unanswerable without the aid of wild generalizations or massive amounts of research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nice gaijin
    There are about 1.3 billion people living in China, about 130 million in Japan and almost 300 million in the US. Your question seems to be unanswerable without the aid of wild generalizations or massive amounts of research.
    Or some well-targeted professional survey. Given that both the Chinese people and government seem to hold fairly antagonistic feelings towards Japan, and that in the last decade they have so readily welcomed American investors, copied the American model and even made English their favoured 2nd language for business, my "impression" is that if we did survey the Chinese population, more would admit "liking" the US better than Japan. That is just my feeling/supposition, and I believe this is what we are asked for in this poll, isn't it ? We surely can't expect any JREF member to 'know' the exact answer in percentage...

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    This is a Japan-oriented forum,where we have no more than 6 regular forumers of Chinese descent out of several thousand active members.

    Your thread can get higher poll numbers and replies on any Chinese forums than here.

    The correct answer is 50/50,for Chinese younger generation is awaking to the fact of US military " encirlcement " of their country plus Taiwan issue despite lingering hate for Japan on unresolved WW 2 matters.
    Last edited by ricecake; Jul 21, 2006 at 17:30.

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    Are there many Chinese members posting here on JRef?

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    Quote Originally Posted by changedonrequest View Post
    Are there many Chinese members posting here on JRef?

    I come from China .Joining this forum on 18th,May 2007
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    Nope ....

    Me here in USA
    one = Canada
    one = France
    two = mainland China
    one = Hong Kong

    We're the regular forumers,plus a few come and go.

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    im from Hong Kong, so yeah, i'm Chinese

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    I take it that posters like the character that started this thread, tokyo, get under your skin a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokyo
    Which culture does the Chinese in general have better opinions of?
    I do get the impression that the Chinese in general have a more variety of views towards the US or Americans, whereas they are more likely to stereotype the Japanese.

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    Blame it on extreme anti-Japan Chinese mass media machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwumuyi
    Yes, both the two cultures are admirable, but think of the war atrocities committed by japanese and the general attitude towards the past war in ja-society, who dare say chinese are loving japan?

    actually, most people here like japan, not a militarily and politically ambitious japan, but a peace-loving, tolerant japan.


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    You know I am not a professor of history regarding Japan or China yet throughout the histories of both countries atrocities have been committed.

    Neither country is without fault.

    For Chinese to blame Japanese for their atrocities is one thing, yet in Chinese history MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people were sacrificed from the hands of the CHINESE people against CHINESE.

    In Japanese history Japanese are guilty of indiscretions against numerous countries and their people throughout Asia.

    This is the history of nearly all countries throughout the world....hell in the US Native American's were slaughtered by the millions, just so the "white" settlers could have more land.

    Do I need to go on..............

    Almost every country every where is to "blame". Don't you think it is time to let history be history?

    Why in the heck can't people learn to look to the future instead of constantly living in the past? Does it make you "feel" better as a person to blame an event that happened probably before you were born to justify your hate today?

    Question here to our Japanese and Chinese members;

    To our Chinese members;

    Do you actually KNOW any Japanese people? AND if you do Are they decent or "nice"? OR Are they animal's to be despised and if so WHY do you despise them, because of something they did to you personally or because of something you were taught or told from a history book or teacher?

    To our Japanese members;

    Do you actually KNOW any Chinese people? AND if you do ARE they decent or "nice? OR Are they animal's to be despised and if so WHY do you despise them, because of something they did to you personally of because of something you were taught of told from a history book or teacher?

    I personally lost relatives, my Dad's brother's among others during the Pacific War in WWII, that doesn't mean I HATE all Japanese because of an event that happened BEFORE I was born.

    My wife is Japanese, my children are "half" Japanese "half" American, they are living reminders of the atrocities that Japan caused upon my family....yeah right I think not.

    To those Chinese members and Japanese members out there that are over 60 years old, because the "rest" HAVE NO ACTUAL MEMORY OF ANY ATROCITIES, I ask do you hate the Japanese people so much even today?

    OR have you learned that to carry such a hate does nothing but cause you heartburn.

    I ASK ALL OF YOU JAPANESE AND CHINESE>>>>"WHERE DOES YOUR HATE COME FROM?" Please explain to me how you can hate a country and it's people for something that YOU are not directly concerned with.?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiro
    To our Chinese members;

    Do you actually KNOW any Japanese people? AND if you do Are they decent or "nice"? OR Are they animal's to be despised and if so WHY do you despise them, because of something they did to you personally or because of something you were taught or told from a history book or teacher?
    A while ago a Chinese girl added me to skype, and when we were talking I told her I studied Japanese, and I love Japan and all the relating things. She said she didn't like Japanese people, and when I asked her if she knew any Japanese she said "NO" !!? Come on, you dislike a whole nation because you are told in school to dislike Japanese? Yet you don't know any Japanese person at all. It's sad things like this happen on daily basis. Chinese and Japanese should put the past aside !
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    well..i take it as yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiro

    To our Chinese members;

    Do you actually KNOW any Japanese people? AND if you do Are they decent or "nice"? OR Are they animal's to be despised and if so WHY do you despise them, because of something they did to you personally or because of something you were taught or told from a history book or teacher?
    yes, i KNOW and they're decent.
    we're all animals with little more arrogancy and little bit more intelligence.
    i do not despise. I married one of them.
    no history book or teacher.
    learnt it from an old-retired-nice-ex-soldier, excused from the WWII caused by fatal injuries (read. grenade) who happened to be my father.


    To our Japanese members;

    Do you actually KNOW any Chinese people? AND if you do ARE they decent or "nice? OR Are they animal's to be despised and if so WHY do you despise them, because of something they did to you personally of because of something you were taught of told from a history book or teacher?
    answers from my hubby :

    yes...but if you mean from the China mainland, I worked with them.
    nice, but never stop talking. I married one of this chatterboxes.
    I learnt more history from my chatterbox than I got from my school.
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    Appearily fake Chinese OP sought out " real " Chinese to answer his survey on this Japan-oriented forum.
    Last edited by ricecake; Jul 24, 2006 at 15:00.

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    Timey, thank you! I also like the "little" cultural points you added as well.

    I am married to a Japanese woman from Okinawa and her thoughts are similar to mine about "relationships" between people of different countries.

    Not to say that we are naive but truly question how people from one country and another can have so much hatred for each other for things that happened before they were born.

    For Japanese and Chinese I think some of these hatred's go back much farther than just since WWII.


    Absolutely,as appearily fake Chinese OP sought out " real " Chinese to answer his survey on this Japan-oriented forum.
    Thanks for answering for me........

    Oh and since it was my question and not the OP's I am more than happy to have any ethnic Chinese and or Japanese answer the questions I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiro

    For Japanese and Chinese I think some of these hatred's go back much farther than just since WWII.
    This is absolutely NOT TRUE,China's issue with Japan mainly circle around WW 2.

    It's hatred between Japanese and Koreans extends back to Imjin War 1592-98 devasted Korea peninsula barely could recuperated one century later still has long last impact on Koreans mindset.Japan's Kyoto Minizuka Monument enshrines " ears and noses " of 36,000 Koreans slaughtered by Hideoyoshi's Army in this war.

    Last year's S Korea's major TV network KBS produced an epic drama depicting their national hero in " The Undefeated Yi Shun Sin " with many sea battle scenes,he was the Korean commander of infamous Turtle Ships.

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    My wife is Japanese, my children are "half" Japanese "half" American, they are living reminders of the atrocities that Japan caused upon my family....yeah right I think not.
    This is the best sentence in your reply, Hachiro, My grandfather and grandmother fled germany because of the war, lost relatives.

    Japan was Britains enemy, yet here we are, 60 years after the fact, having no memory of any atrocity commited against me, dating a Japanese lady.

    If the situation was more convenient we would have probably married already or at least be engaged.

    Britons, Americans, hell, even some Chinese have married Japanese people and learned to see Japan as a nation of human beings instead of an old enemy long defeated, and the criminals of the war long dead.

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    Personally I dont think Chinese think much of either culture.

    Out of any culture they choose their own (the one they tried to destroy in a maoist idiocy project).

    Still, Chinese culture is nice so, cant blame them.

    At the momment I reckon they'd choose American culture...just out of spite of Japan really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiro
    For Japanese and Chinese I think some of these hatred's go back much farther than just since WWII.
    I doubt any Japanese would hate the Chinese because of history. It's usually the Chinese who first bring up the topic, and not the other way round.

    Cool avatar, btw

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    There are Japanese families victimized by A-bomb still have some " residual " hatred or resentment toward Americans.

    The historic relation between Japan and China was mainly " cultural enlightment " not of military or political conflicts,Japanese never had a " reason " to hate Chinese.

    It's Japanese bit " the hands = China/Korea " civilized them for many centuries.

    The failed Mongol invasion of Japan was a military aggression by northern Nomadic tribes,not a Chinese dynasty of Central Plains region ( China ).

    Japan Inc 's economic aggression assault on America failed in 1990's.Nowadays,many ordinary Americans know better not ignorantly regard Japanese as " superficial friends " but a yellow race they have to stay on guard.
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    I think there is a lack of communication between Japan and China. For most Chinese people, they don't know anyone from Japan. Their only impression about their neighbour is such as the brutal but stupid military officer with a little moustache in movies about the WW2 (made-in-China). Not like USA, though it's much further away, modern Japan remains mysterious to most of ordinary Chinese (sorry, but maybe except the Japanese porno films to the young Chinese).
    And the main reason that Chinese knows more about and thus are more favourable towards Americans is the POWER of USA. Its effects are everywhere. We learn English, listen to VOA, watch Hollywood movies, Friends etc. We don't know more about Peru than Japan, frankly.
    So Chinese and Japanese people need more communication so that we can live together better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiro
    Timey, thank you! I also like the "little" cultural points you added as well.

    I am married to a Japanese woman from Okinawa and her thoughts are similar to mine about "relationships" between people of different countries.

    Not to say that we are naive but truly question how people from one country and another can have so much hatred for each other for things that happened before they were born.

    ...
    well..
    it's just i don't think i'm in a position to determine whether i 'hate' or 'love' any countries and people

    actually I'd like to say
    what's over is over, it's something you can't change, you weren't even born by that time (WWII)!!

    BUT
    i'll be doomed if i'd ever been such an ignorant.
    some people had all their family members slaughtered back then..who TF has a right to tell them to forget it and move on ? definitely not me, cos i happened to know some of them.

    so, i'd like to say
    i'm standing somewhere between the lines..
    I can't judge people from their country
    'hate' or 'like' ? .......?
    somebody shoot me! haha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timey

    i'll be doomed if i'd ever been such an ignorant.

    some people had all their family members slaughtered back then.who TF has a right to tell them to forget it and move on ? definitely not me,cos iIhappened to know some of them.
    Their outcries didn't fall on deaf ears,that's WHY there is not yet a " closure " chapter to WW 2 in the Far East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by changedonrequest View Post
    Why in the heck can't people learn to look to the future instead of constantly living in the past? Does it make you "feel" better as a person to blame an event that happened probably before you were born to justify your hate today?

    Question here to our Japanese and Chinese members;

    To our Chinese members;

    Do you actually KNOW any Japanese people? AND if you do Are they decent or "nice"? OR Are they animal's to be despised and if so WHY do you despise them, because of something they did to you personally or because of something you were taught or told from a history book or teacher?


    I personally lost relatives, my Dad's brother's among others during the Pacific War in WWII, that doesn't mean I HATE all Japanese because of an event that happened BEFORE I was born.

    My wife is Japanese, my children are "half" Japanese "half" American, they are living reminders of the atrocities that Japan caused upon my family....yeah right I think not.

    To those Chinese members and Japanese members out there that are over 60 years old, because the "rest" HAVE NO ACTUAL MEMORY OF ANY ATROCITIES, I ask do you hate the Japanese people so much even today?

    OR have you learned that to carry such a hate does nothing but cause you heartburn.

    I ASK ALL OF YOU JAPANESE AND CHINESE>>>>"WHERE DOES YOUR HATE COME FROM?" Please explain to me how you can hate a country and it's people for something that YOU are not directly concerned with.?!?!
    Yes ,we can't constantly live in the past .Everyone wish have peace life .I have ever watched a film which show the Japanese take chinaese as their test object by using organism-chemical weapon .I don't know whether it is real.But I also have a question why don't they show some other countries(American ,Germany ,UK and so on).As I myself ,I am angery the past ,not live in the past .Only i wish is there will have no war any longer

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