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    Quote Originally Posted by warakawa

    im chinese, i like vietnamese girls and food

    but the way, many vietnamese people always try to act like chinese.
    Well,Chinamen sowed seeds in different parts of SE Asia in the last few hundred years.Vietnamese is the nationality notoriously claiming Chinese-origin or Chinese/Viet same root crap talk.Over 80% of Vietnam's 80 millions,are entirely of INDIGENOUS ORIGINS and have indigenous facial/physical features.

    Vietnam has 2% population of FULL BLOOD ethnic Chinese,they do look very Chinese and act culturally Chinese.

    Ethnic Viets are Chinese-wannabe's,rather they wish they are a part of greater Chinese race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricecake
    Well,Chinamen sowed seeds in different parts of SE Asia in the last few hundred years.Vietnamese is the nationality notoriously claiming Chinese-origin or Chinese/Viet same root crap talk.Over 80% of Vietnam's 80 millions,are entirely of INDIGENOUS ORIGINS and have indigenous facial/physical features.
    Vietnam has 2% population of FULL BLOOD ethnic Chinese,they do look very Chinese and act culturally Chinese.
    Ethnic Viets are Chinese-wannabe's,rather they wish they are a part of greater Chinese race.
    Chinese-wannabes.. now that's something new..

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    Quote Originally Posted by godppgo

    Chinese-wannabes.. now that's something new.
    It's a matter of low self-esteem and inferiority complex oppose to S Koreans' newly found superiority complex FAKE-arrogancy toward Chinese people often venomously deny any ties to Chinese race rather vigorously promoting 100% pure Siberian/Mongol origin for the entire population.

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    If some Vietnamese do look Chinese it could be the result of the colonisation.
    Chinese-wannabes.. now that's something new..
    You need to look outside of your Taiwanese view to get a fuller picture, there are people who like to associate themselves with Chinese.

    The Thais also celebrate Chinese New Year they are not Chinese too.

    Singapore's Chinese and Malaysia's Chinese use China's simplified writing system rather than Taiwan's traditional writing system after China made the changed.

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    A small percentage of so-called ETHNIC Viet population is of paternal Chinese ancestry,mixed-offsprings of lonely Chinamen and INDIGENOUS Viet girls.

    One parallel example,British men fathered many thousand if not million mixed children in India during colonial period.
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    Is it just my imagination or are there more and more Chinese wanting to become non-Chinese and will not hesitate a second if they are given a chance to obtain foreign country permanent residency or passport? At least from my experience with Chinese people, their Chinese passports are the last thing they'll miss.

    It never seize to amaze me how some people who has never set their foot on Chinese soil in their whole life proclaim themselves Chinese and associate themselves heavily with Chinese culture. To me these people are the real Chinese-wannabes.

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    it's all to do with economy, give china 30 or 40 more years when its economy is as strong as america, when it's military is the best in the world. Then, all asian will claim they are chinese.

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    Chinese wannabes? do you know rؐ in Vietnam?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    The war also caused a forced migration of Vietnam's ethnic Chinese, who were discriminated against. They fled as "boat people" and were resettled in several Chinatowns and in other Asian communities in Australia, Europe, and North America.
    In the People's Republic of China, this war is not frequently mentioned. In Vietnamese history textbooks, however, the war is documented in great detail.

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    This was strictly government action in reprisal,the border clash resulted an exodus of ETHNIC Chinese.It became an opportunity for those middle-class to well-off ETHNIC Chinese who didn't or couldn't leave in 1975,Viet authorities openingly allowed ETHNIC Chinese who could afford " paid-trip " out to sea.Some ETHNIC Viets in USA complaint of " preferential treatment " toward Chinese,for they too wanted own family and friends to escape communism back home.

    Except for this is recent event of ethnic Chinese expulsion,Vietnam never had institutionalized discriminatory policy toward Chinese from ancient times up to the fall of Saigon/S Vietnam in 1975.Ethnic Viets and ethnic Chinese have lived side by side through out Vietnam.Ethnic Chinese controlled much of commerce included banks between 1956-1975 in S Vietnam,with former presidents Ngo Dinh Diem ( 1956-1963 ) and Nyugen Van Thieu both had a few mutual wealthy ethnic Chinese friends who they solicited monetary backings.As matter of fact,former S Vietnam's exiled president Nyugen Van Thieu's son was partly educated in Taiwan,as Thieu was pro-Taiwan or Chinese.Although,ethnic Chinese classified as " minority status " but have superiority complex toward the local ethnic Viets same scenerio in other SE Asian/South Pacific nations.Since diplomatic normalization between China and Vietnam in the late 1980's,Chinese language schools are back in operation.

    ETHNIC Viets is the most " dislike " Asian nationality in USA,partly for lost of Vietnam War and Viets' anti-social behaviors.Viet gangs infested some major inner cities in USA and through out the world where they settled in the last 3 decades.Many Viets on welfare roll in first few years of resettlement in the USA,often commited frauds.American whites generally don't like Viets,this attitude of social rejection manifested in low self-esteem among Viets young and old.

    Viets' inferiority complex toward Chinese stems from " lost much self-worth " as an independent people after their ancestors militarily broke free from Chinese imperial domination in 939 AD,and from entrenched Chinese cultural influences perceivingly " superior " to Viets' Au Lac ancestors' indigenous culture closest to their blood-siblings Thais and Laotians with all 3 languages belong to Tai-Kadai group.

    Sinicization of Vietnam culturally and mentally and psychologically distanced ETHNIC Viets from neighboring SE Asians who are genetically closest to them from ancient times.ETHNIC Viets " rarely feel kinship " with Thais,Laotians,and those Chinese aboriginal minorities populated in China's SW region rather passionately pursue Han Chinese closeness as in " blood-brotherly/sisterly relationship ".

    Unlike Japanese and Koreans,Viets never could developed on their own instead still lean on Chinese culture for guidance.Ethnic Viets regularly indulge in translated version of Chinese entertainments and literature works for many decades.

    Honestly,some ETHNIC Viets are " Chinese wannabes " with a few often visit Chinese history forums to seek ethnic-origin tie with Chinese race.Same as Korea peninsula,Vietnam's history was very much intertwined with China for there is a notable connection to one particular ancient Yue indigenous tribe once populated what's now Canton province.China's NE region and Tungus nomadic clans in the case for Koreans as a parallel example,but S Korea's De-Sinicization policy in the past 50 years lead to recent root searching in Siberia or Mongolia which is 360 degree in reverse from " faked Chinese " for nearly 1500 years with Emperors and Yanban class venomously mouthed-down " own nomadic kins " Jurchen and Khitan as beastly barbaric kingdoms unworthy of diplomatic ties documented in Korea history chronicles during those ancient days KOREAN ancestors were " LICKING Chinamen's BUTT-HOLES ".Nowadays,younger generation S Koreans are indoctrinated with the notion of 100% pure Siberian/Mongolian origin not related to Chinese race.

    Viets is the one and only Asian nationality WORSHIPS Chinese blood tie,oth
    er SE Asians and or South Pacific Asians couldn't care less.

    On the flip side,I've encountered a hanful dedicated Viets on a " revenge rampage " in several Asian-oriented forums for " Chinese rejection as equals " with maps/linked news articles/inconclusive DNA reports/recycled message like " Viets and Chinese are same root or Han Chinese race is of Viet-origin or Han Chinese came from SE Asia or Han Chinese not genetically related to East Asian twins Japanese/Koreans " cheap crap talks wallpaper the entire threads.Chinese generally embrace cultural closeness toward both Japanese and Koreans often exclude Viets.This exclusion hurts Viets' feelings deep down,since they don't want to associate with blood-siblings Thais and Laotians plus half-lings Cambodians who are never Sinicized like them.

    Japanese,Koreans,and Chinese exclude Viets in the prestige NE Asian club for Viets' true origin is with Thais and Laotians plus distant geographic proximity.

    There are some ETHNIC Viets do hate Chinese people for looking down on
    them typically among younger generation,for I've had read their internet Asian forum posts of angrily words directed at Chinese.

    In their homeland,Viets probably don't feel this way as they can't be dislike by own race with no foreigners treat them as lesser people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricecake View Post
    This was strictly government action in reprisal,the border clash resulted an exodus of ETHNIC Chinese.It became an opportunity for those middle-class to well-off ETHNIC Chinese who didn't or couldn't leave in 1975,Viet authorities openingly allowed ETHNIC Chinese who could afford " paid-trip " out to sea.Some ETHNIC Viets in USA complaint of " preferential treatment " toward Chinese,for they too wanted own family and friends to escape communism back home.

    Except for this is recent event of ethnic Chinese expulsion,Vietnam never had institutionalized discriminatory policy toward Chinese from ancient times up to the fall of Saigon/S Vietnam in 1975.Ethnic Viets and ethnic Chinese have lived side by side through out Vietnam.Ethnic Chinese controlled much of commerce included banks between 1956-1975 in S Vietnam,with former presidents Ngo Dinh Diem ( 1956-1963 ) and Nyugen Van Thieu both had a few mutual wealthy ethnic Chinese friends who they solicited monetary backings.As matter of fact,former S Vietnam's exiled president Nyugen Van Thieu's son was partly educated in Taiwan,as Thieu was pro-Taiwan or Chinese.Although,ethnic Chinese classified as " minority status " but have superiority complex toward the local ethnic Viets same scenerio in other SE Asian/South Pacific nations.Since diplomatic normalization between China and Vietnam in the late 1980's,Chinese language schools are back in operation.

    ETHNIC Viets is the most " dislike " Asian nationality in USA,partly for lost of Vietnam War and Viets' anti-social behaviors.Viet gangs infested some major inner cities in USA and through out the world where they settled in the last 3 decades.Many Viets on welfare roll in first few years of resettlement in the USA,often commited frauds.American whites generally don't like Viets,this attitude of social rejection manifested in low self-esteem among Viets young and old.

    Viets' inferiority complex toward Chinese stems from " lost much self-worth " as an independent people after their ancestors militarily broke free from Chinese imperial domination in 939 AD,and from entrenched Chinese cultural influences perceivingly " superior " to Viets' Au Lac ancestors' indigenous culture closest to their blood-siblings Thais and Laotians with all 3 languages belong to Tai-Kadai group.

    Sinicization of Vietnam culturally and mentally and psychologically distanced ETHNIC Viets from neighboring SE Asians who are genetically closest to them from ancient times.ETHNIC Viets " rarely feel kinship " with Thais,Laotians,and those Chinese aboriginal minorities populated in China's SW region rather passionately pursue Han Chinese closeness as in " blood-brotherly/sisterly relationship ".

    Unlike Japanese and Koreans,Viets never could developed on their own instead still lean on Chinese culture for guidance.Ethnic Viets regularly indulge in translated version of Chinese entertainments and literature works for many decades.

    Honestly,some ETHNIC Viets are " Chinese wannabes " with a few often visit Chinese history forums to seek ethnic-origin tie with Chinese race.Same as Korea peninsula,Vietnam's history was very much intertwined with China for there is a notable connection to one particular ancient Yue indigenous tribe once populated what's now Canton province.China's NE region and Tungus nomadic clans in the case for Koreans as a parallel example,but S Korea's De-Sinicization policy in the past 50 years lead to recent root searching in Siberia or Mongolia which is 360 degree in reverse from " faked Chinese " for nearly 1500 years with Emperors and Yanban class venomously mouthed-down " own nomadic kins " Jurchen and Khitan as beastly barbaric kingdoms unworthy of diplomatic ties documented in Korea history chronicles during those ancient days KOREAN ancestors were " LICKING Chinamen's BUTT-HOLES ".Nowadays,younger generation S Koreans are indoctrinated with the notion of 100% pure Siberian/Mongolian origin not related to Chinese race.

    Viets is the one and only Asian nationality WORSHIPS Chinese blood tie,oth
    er SE Asians and or South Pacific Asians couldn't care less.

    On the flip side,I've encountered a hanful dedicated Viets on a " revenge rampage " in several Asian-oriented forums for " Chinese rejection as equals " with maps/linked news articles/inconclusive DNA reports/recycled message like " Viets and Chinese are same root or Han Chinese race is of Viet-origin or Han Chinese came from SE Asia or Han Chinese not genetically related to East Asian twins Japanese/Koreans " cheap crap talks wallpaper the entire threads.Chinese generally embrace cultural closeness toward both Japanese and Koreans often exclude Viets.This exclusion hurts Viets' feelings deep down,since they don't want to associate with blood-siblings Thais and Laotians plus half-lings Cambodians who are never Sinicized like them.

    Japanese,Koreans,and Chinese exclude Viets in the prestige NE Asian club for Viets' true origin is with Thais and Laotians plus distant geographic proximity.

    There are some ETHNIC Viets do hate Chinese people for looking down on
    them typically among younger generation,for I've had read their internet Asian forum posts of angrily words directed at Chinese.

    In their homeland,Viets probably don't feel this way as they can't be dislike by own race with no foreigners treat them as lesser people.
    Viets' true origin is with Thais and Laotians ? do your research before assuming that :| they're the closest race to japanese in genetic similarity compared to other NE asians even Korean is not that close :|


    The mean IBS for Japanese to Vietnamese is 0.76613, whereas the mean
    IBS for Koreans (from 10 different cities) to Vietnamese is 0.76578.

    A higher IBS indicates higher genetic similarity. Since 0.76613 >
    0.76578, then the conclusion is that Japanese are closer to Vietnamese than
    Koreans are to Vietnamese
    again , this topic is not about origin of viets :| it's about the relationship with china. Yes they're enemy and friend in history. Right now they're enemy to Viets i mean the government and those brainwashed chineses
    Stop assuming what you copied from your textbook are correct :| and what you said about are not correct sigh

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