Gold Warriors : the plunder of Asia

[blessed]

woow, gotta get this book... seems interesting.

shiningblue: i think the problem and reason why people blame america more than other countries is that a) its the most visible and reported-on country, and b) because it has the most secretive government (or just badly kept secrets)... and secrets are kept for a reason..

[shiningblue]

shiningblue: i think the problem and reason why people blame america more than other countries is that a) its the most visible and reported-on country, and b) because it has the most secretive government (or just badly kept secrets)... and secrets are kept for a reason..

As for america being the most visible country, i totally understand. People like the big dog to fall and the US is under constant scrutiny for their actions no matter what they maybe doing in the world...

Most secretive government, or having badly kept secrets, i just can't agree. There is a difference in secrets that have gotten out, such as the Pentagon Papers, Nixon's Tapes, Spies in the government, etc. and conspiracy theories. Most of the stuff you hear about the United States is either a)grossly exaggerated or b) totally untrue.

EDIT: (I need to be more clear)
America has done it's share of nasty and bad things to the peoples of the world. And we are to blame for them. But take a look at the history of any country in the world, and how they acted. It will be a pretty even playing field......

People assume that they can make an unfounded theory about how (for example) Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks. They then back it up with the least fact based (yet imaginative) argument ever. People need to take into mind Ocham's Razor [the simplest explination is most likely the correct one].

The US taking gold reserves from Japan that Japan took from different Asian nations? Maybe. The US using that money to fund the arms race during the cold war and now against terrorists in the Middle East? Not Likely. The US in a giant global domination scheme with ties to people in the government of all the G-8 countries, the martians that landed in 1949, and Jimmy Hoffa's reanimated body? Most definately not.

[bossel]

Interesting article. Though I have my doubts about some of the claims, they seem a bit exaggerated. On the other hand, the authors seem to provide plenty of evidence for their allegations. I'll probably wait for some reputable European historians to review the facts.

As for america being the most visible country, i totally understand. People like the big dog to fall and the US is under constant scrutiny for their actions no matter what they maybe doing in the world...

Not only being the most visible, but with the highest pretence: land of the free, guardian of human rights & so on. If the US insists on having the moral high ground, it will be judged accordingly. Noone expects Russia or China (let alone Sudan) to be too considerate regarding human rights or collateral damage. Hence their human rights violations (usually) don't get that much public attention.

The US taking gold reserves from Japan that Japan took from different Asian nations? Maybe. The US using that money to fund the arms race during the cold war and now against terrorists in the Middle East? Not Likely. The US in a giant global domination scheme with ties to people in the government of all the G-8 countries

The US most probably had (& has) secret funds for all kinds of purposes. Hence the notion that they used booty gold for these is not too far-fetched. If it was worth $ 500 billion (in modern currency), who knows.
Of course the US has its people (in governments, ministries, secret services) all over the world. If that can be called a global domination scheme, I don't know, but the US surely uses all possible ways to get information & to increase its influence.