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    are chinese people peaceful or aggressive

    i do believe that chinese people are peaceful and obedient in general.. but there are tons of "chinese threat/bully" all over the media makes me doubt, are those reporters still live in the era of cold war (most of them surely grow up during the cold war), and can't get out of their past...

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    They are humans.. and honestly i wouldnt say they are anymore or anyless aggressive or peaceful then anyone else ...

    Just my uneducated answer though, i couldnt back it up if i tried

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukiyono
    They are humans.. and honestly i wouldnt say they are anymore or anyless aggressive or peaceful then anyone else ...

    Just my uneducated answer though, i couldnt back it up if i tried

    You're right. In fact I don't even see the whole point of the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooker
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    more like cold or hot.. just like japanese were considered quite aggressive to their neighbours before world war II

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingo
    more like cold or hot.. just like japanese were considered quite aggressive to their neighbours before world war II
    finally i can see your point from your first pointless question....(?)

    or you should complete your thread title like adding...:
    "are chinese people peaceful or aggressive comparing to japanese ?" right ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukiyono
    They are humans.. and honestly i wouldnt say they are anymore or anyless aggressive or peaceful then anyone else ...
    I feel that this kind of answer is even less thoughtful than the OP's question.

    I believe that the question was "Where does the 'average' personality of Chinese people stand in the world in regard to aggressivity/peacefulness". In other words, if you were assigned the job to scour the world and make a giant survey about the cultural predispositions of people by country, where would the Chinese rank on the aggressivity scale ?

    Personality I feel that Chinese people, like other East Asians, are generically less disposed to being "aggressive", because Mongoloid people have lower testosterone levels. They are thus more "feminine" (but that can mean also more emotional, which is sometimes confused for aggresivity).

    BUT, poverty an greed generally increases the risk of (physically) aggressive behaviour among humans, and mainland China is still a developing country. That is why Chinese immigrants in Japan have a higher crime rate than average, as they are poorer and thus more likely to steal or live from illegal activities, and most of them only came to Japan to make money.

    China, like other East Asian countries, can be very vocal (which make it look aggressive), but its citizens are probably less naturally warlike than in most of the world. Compared to similarily developed countries outside East Asia, I find that China is a relativily peaceful and organised place. Given its huge population and high population density in the East, it is fairly amazing how safe China can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo
    I believe that the question was "Where does the 'average' personality of Chinese people stand in the world in regard to aggressivity/peacefulness". In other words, if you were assigned the job to scour the world and make a giant survey about the cultural predispositions of people by country, where would the Chinese rank on the aggressivity scale ?

    Personality I feel that Chinese people, like other East Asians, are generically less disposed to being "aggressive", because Mongoloid people have lower testosterone levels. They are thus more "feminine" (but that can mean also more emotional, which is sometimes confused for aggresivity).
    Wow I had never heard that before. Could you provide a link to the study or medical journal you learned this from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nice gaijin
    Wow I had never heard that before. Could you provide a link to the study or medical journal you learned this from?
    Do you really need a stuy to prove that Mongolid people have lower testosterone levels ? It is obvious from Mongoloid men's physical traits (less muscular, even after bodybuilding), lower hairiness, weaker body odour, and even the more feminine characteristics of East Asian cultures in general (more group-oriented, conscensus-based, avoid directness and confrontation, etc.).

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    It is just a simple question, "Are all Chinese Ah Q?"
    The answer should be negative, but we're all Ah Q, no matter how individualistic, some claim, Europeans or Belgians are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo
    Do you really need a stuy to prove that Mongolid people have lower testosterone levels ? It is obvious from Mongoloid men's physical traits (less muscular, even after bodybuilding), lower hairiness, weaker body odour, and even the more feminine characteristics of East Asian cultures in general (more group-oriented, conscensus-based, avoid directness and confrontation, etc.).
    Well, yes. I would like to see some empirical evidence instead of just an opinion based on personal observation. It may very well be true, but I'm less likely to accept it without any sort of scientific study behind it.

    And those last items in your list are culturally transmitted behaviors. Several East Asians I know who were adopted by western families are extremely individual, stubborn and direct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo
    Do you really need a stuy to prove that Mongolid people have lower testosterone levels ? It is obvious from Mongoloid men's physical traits (less muscular, even after bodybuilding), lower hairiness, weaker body odour, and even the more feminine characteristics of East Asian cultures in general (more group-oriented, conscensus-based, avoid directness and confrontation, etc.).
    The by Maciamo claimed difference in testosterone levels among Caucasian and mongoloid men prompted me to make some google seaches on testosterone, mongoloid, caucasian etc. It was very interesting: many of the sites found were hosted by various american racist groups, white supremacy groups and some ressearchers who are into genetics. Many of them cited the ressearch made by J. Philippe Rushton.

    Rushton has been associated with American Renaissance, a white nationalist monthly magazine. He has also written articles for VDARE, a right-wing anti-immigrant website.

    Many ressearchers have tried to prove many of his racist theories wrong.
    This one deals with the issue of testosterone:

    "Comparative rates of androgen production and metabolism in Caucasian and Chinese subjects". Santner SJ, Albertson B, Zhang GY, Zhang GH, Santulli M, Wang C, Demers LM, Shackleton C, Santen RJ, (Department of Medicine, Pennsylvania State University, Milton S. Hershey Medical Center, Hershey 17033, USA).

    "To distinguish genetic from environmental/dietary factors as a cause of these differences, we compared Chinese men living in Pennsylvania and a similar group living in Beijing, China. We detected a reduction in testosterone production rates and total plasma testosterone and sex hormone-binding levels, but not in testosterone MCRs in Beijing Chinese as a opposed to those living in Pennsylvania. Comparing Pennsylvania Chinese with their Caucasian counterparts, we detected no significant differences in total testosterone, free and weakly bound testosterone, sex hormone-binding globulin levels, and testosterone production rates. Taken together, these studies suggest that environmental/dietary, but not genetic, factors influence androgen production and explain the differences between Caucasian and Chinese men."

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    what examples are you referring to, mingo? Why would you characterize an entire race/nation of people based on a few news stories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nice gaijin
    what examples are you referring to, mingo? Why would you characterize an entire race/nation of people based on a few news stories?
    how about personal experience, with the culture heavily influence by Confusism,taoism and buddism, chinese tender to keep what it is instead of expanding ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingo
    how about personal experience, with the culture heavily influence by Confusism,taoism and buddism, chinese tender to keep what it is instead of expanding ..
    I'm more concerned with the "tons" of news stories you mentioned in your first post. Could you give us an example at least, because I have not heard any of these stories.

    And while we're at it, what does that have to do with the cold war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingo
    how about personal experience, with the culture heavily influence by Confusism,taoism and buddism, chinese tender to keep what it is instead of expanding ..
    Well if thats the kind of experience you want, then i would be more then happy to go find about 4.5 billion articles about americans either bullying other americans/foreigners/frogs/dogs/animals/etc.... then we can see if that would make americans the most aggressiva as well.


    more like cold or hot.. just like japanese were considered quite aggressive to their neighbours before world war II
    Expansionism isnt something you could really equate with a race to call them aggressive, as EVERY country or empire in the past has been guilty of it. European coutries have been particulary bad about it.

    If you go to any sort of crime to see who is aggressive more then the other, you would have to take into account the population of the place as well. Sure you are going to hear tons about violence on the news. (depending where you live), but you also got to take into account there are what.. 1.3billion people in the country. If the US was to jump to that size, it would have to doubles its population about 6 times.

    Ive got personal experience that americans can be most aggressive. But i havent met someone from all the different nationalities in order to prove that fact, and even then, i would have to meet EVERYONE in that nationality for me to prove it right or wrong.

    If you want to figure out why people can be cruel to ya, then at least here in the states, there are several mitigating factors towards it. First and foremost, Racism. Alot of americans are still racist weather they like to say it or not, i made a nice long rant about it before.... but americans arent the only people racist in this countries, the minorities can also be quite the racist as well.

    Social class is another thing that can have people acting different and cruel around you. If you are poor and live in a rich neighborhood, you will be an outsider. You arent the cream of the crop and are therefore (generally not always) treated as almost subhuman, treated with the sort of disdain usually saved for the bad family pet who has just peed in the house.

    Jealousy is another nice one, the person being cruel could in fact be jealous of your ability, and this could in fact be the cause of some of the problems.

    more likely its all three.

    But with americans killing off record numbers every year, (and its all being reported on the news, creating a nice sense of fear in alot of people). I would be willing to bet most people would consider americans to be the most aggressive, and while i have personal experience, i probably wouldnt even agree with that. As i said, we are all human beings, therefore, there will always be a bad streak in us.

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    They are peaceful only IF you are aggressive. They are very aggressive if you are peaceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles
    Chinese ethnicity is a melting pot of many Mongoloid origins,northern Chinese are vulgar and have more aggressive nature compare to their southern peers who are mellow in temper.
    Incredible that noodles after having visited China once has become able to pass such a sweeping judgement of more one billion people.

    For someone who only joined our forum one hour ago I am amazed. I think you are meerely trying to bait some chinese to argue with you.

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