Originally Posted by nurizeko
Are those foreigners,Americans or Europeans ?
Are those foreigners,Americans or Europeans ?
ﾅｽ窶樞堙娯堋ｨ窶｢ﾆ停堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堋ｪﾂ、ﾆ谷ﾆ段ﾆ胆窶� ﾃ可、ﾋ�ｪ窶扼ﾅ�ﾃ板出窶卍｣ﾅ�ﾃ滅淡窶堙娯板昶燃窶堙 �、窶ｰﾃ�伉ｰﾅ�F窶堋ｪ窶堋ｱ窶堋ｱ窶堙俄ｰﾃ溪堋ｲ窶� ﾂｵ窶堙俄藩�堋ｽ窶堙娯堙�堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ ﾂ ﾅｽ窶樞傳 窶堙債、ﾆ谷ﾆ段ﾆ胆窶堙架�壺督ｯ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶禿壺廬 窶堙坂堙遺堋｢窶堙娯堙�堋ｷ窶堋ｪﾂ、窶堋ｱ窶堙戸� ﾃｪ窶扼ﾅ�ﾃ披ｰpﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰﾋ�ｪﾂ青ｶﾅ椎凪督ｽﾅ�ﾃｦ窶卍｣� 堙≫堙��w窶堙寂堙遺堋ｯ窶堙ｪ窶堙寂堋｢窶堋ｯ窶� ﾃ遺堋｢窶堙��F窶堙俄ｰﾃ補堙溪堙ｧ窶堙ｪ窶堙ｩ窶堙� 窶堙�、ﾅｽ窶樞堙坂佚･窶｢ﾃ鞘ｹﾃｪﾋ廱窶堙ｰ窶堋ｵ窶堙 �堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙娯堙�� 窶堙ｩﾂ。ﾂ ﾅｽ窶樞堙個渉 ｬﾅ�wﾂ校窶堙�堙債、窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙�谷ﾆ段ﾆ胆窶堙戸� ﾃ吮｢ﾂｶ窶ｰﾂｻ窶堙ｰ窶佛�ﾅ津昶板昶ｰﾃｰ窶堋ｵ窶堙ｦ窶堋 ､窶堙�堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶佛�ﾅｽﾃｨ窶堙坂敕ｱﾂ湘ｭ窶堙可渉ｭ窶 堙遺堋ｭ窶堙�、ﾅｽ窶樞堙坂愿ｺ窶怒窶堙俄ｹAﾂ坂倪 堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾅｽﾅｾ窶堙可、窶昶卍人窶傳窶堙嫁ｽ窶樞堙ｰﾅ �F窶堙娯吮｡ﾅ�ﾃ披堙俄堋ｵ窶堙�堋ｭ窶堙ｪ窶堙遺� ﾂｩ窶堙≫堋ｽ窶罵窶堙俄慊ｯ窶堋ｶ窶禿壺堙可坂｡窶堙 ｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋｢窶堙�ｽv窶堙≫堙�堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙娯 堙�� 窶堙ｩﾂ。
ﾅｽ窶樞堙哉谷ﾆ段ﾆ胆窶堙俄藩�堙�、窶｢ﾃ冷ｹﾂｭ窶� ﾃ俄堙遺堙≫堋ｽ窶堋ｱ窶堙�堙債、ﾅｽﾂｩ窶｢ﾂｪ窶堙個 坂倪堙ｰﾂ出窶堙ｩ窶堙�儂窶堙�ﾅｽﾂｩ窶｢ﾂｪ窶堙個坂� 窶堙娯吮�ﾅ陳ｩ窶堋ｽ窶堋｢窶堙俄堙最ｽﾃｳ窶堋ｯ窶愿ｼ� 堙ｪ窶堙�堋ｭ窶堙ｪ窶堙遺堋｢ﾅｽ窶凪堙�� 窶堙ｩ� 堙娯堙�堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ ﾅｽ窶樞堙才�ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙�窶伉≫ 堋ｭ窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙俄ｹA窶堙≫堙�、窶徒窶禿ｬ窶吮� ﾅ�wﾂ校窶堙俄愿ｼﾅ�w窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋｢窶堙娯堙�堋ｷﾂ 。
Just out of curiosity, what is your native language, magoichisaika-san?
Magoichisaika, if you truly are who you say you are then take this as a compliment, but you don't write like any elementary school student I've ever known, in English or in Japanese!
ﾅｽ窶樞堋ｪﾂ渉ｬﾅ�wﾂ校ﾋ彁窶扼ﾂ青ｶﾅ陳ｩ窶堋ｽ窶堋｢窶堙� 窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙�堙�ﾂ、窶ｰpﾅ津ｪ窶堙�堙�ﾂ鞘倪 堋ｯ窶堙�堙遺堋｢窶堙�述窶堙冷堙�堋｢窶堙ｩ窶� ﾃ娯堙�堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ。ﾂ 窶堋ｻ窶堋､窶堋ｩ窶堙�窶冦窶� ﾃｪ窶堙懌堋ｹ窶堙ｱﾂ。ﾂ 窶堋ｱ窶堙娯板昶燃窶堙最ｽ� 樞堋ｪ窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ窶堙坂堙遺堙ｪ窶堙�堋 ｢窶堙ｩ窶堙娯堙�、ﾅ�ﾂｿﾅｽﾅ｡ﾂ、窶儕ﾅ津ｪﾂ、窶凪昶� ﾃ債、窶｢ﾂｶ窶邸窶堙娯氾ｻﾂ習窶堙ｰ窶� 窶堙懌堙ｨﾆ谷 ﾆ段ﾆ胆窶堙�堋ｵ窶堙�堙遺堋｢窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ窶堙�堋 ｷﾂ。ﾂ ﾅｽ窶樞堋ｪ窶吮�ﾅ�wﾋ�ｪ窶扼ﾂ青ｶ窶堙俄愿ｼﾅ� w窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩﾅｽﾅｾ窶堙俄堙遺堙ｩ窶堙��ｪ窶扼窶｢ﾂｪ窶 堙個坂佛津ｪ窶堙娯｢ﾃ冷ｹﾂｭ窶堙ｰﾅｽﾂｩ窶｢ﾂｪ窶堙��F� 堙俄ｹy窶堙寂堙遺堋ｯ窶堙ｪ窶堙寂堋｢窶堋ｯ窶堙遺 堋｢窶堙�ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ 窶堋ｻ窶堙ｪ窶堙�、 ﾅｽ窶樞堙娯ｰpﾅ津ｪ窶堙債、ﾆ谷ﾆ段ﾆ胆ﾂ人窶堙�敕､窶 堙冷堋ｽ窶堙ｧ窶敕ｱﾂ湘ｭ窶堙俄ｰﾂｺﾅｽﾃｨ窶堙遺堙娯堙 坂｢ﾂｪ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫堙�堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙娯堙�堋ｷﾂ。� 堋ｻ窶堙ｪ窶堙�堙�ﾂ、窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙俄禿溪堙≫堋 ｽ窶堙ｧﾂ坂堋校ﾂ青ｫ窶堙�慊ｯ窶堋ｶ窶堋ｮ窶堙ｧ窶堋｢窶 ｰpﾅ津ｪ窶堋ｪ窶堙�堋ｫ窶堙ｩ窶堙ｦ窶堋､窶堙俄堙遺堙 ｩ窶堙�ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌堋ｷﾂ。
ﾅｽ窶樞堙債、窶｢ﾃ冷ｹﾂｭ窶堙俄堙坂� 窶堙懌堙ｨ窶 ｢ﾂ≫凖岩堙最ｽﾃ｣窶堋ｭ窶堙坂堙遺堋｢窶堙娯堙�� ﾂｷ窶堋ｪﾂ、ﾂ渉ｫ窶藩�堙俄愬停ｹﾅｾ窶凖ｩﾂ坂倪佚･ﾅ �w窶堙俄愿ｼﾅ�w窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶督ｲ窶堙ｰﾅｽﾂ昶堙≫堙� 堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙娯堙�堋ｷﾂ。
窶ｹM窶｢ﾃｻ窶堙俄堙ｦ窶堙ｩ窶堙�、ﾅｽ窶樞堙娯ｰpﾅ津ｪ 窶堙�愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙姑椎槌遅ﾆ停ｹ窶堙坂ｰﾂｽ窶扼ﾂ 青ｶ窶堋ｮ窶堙ｧ窶堋｢窶堙�堋ｷ窶堋ｪﾂ。ﾂ 窶惑窶卍ｼ窶 堙俄愬｡窶堋ｦ窶堙�堋ｭ窶堋ｾ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ﾂ。
ﾅｽﾂｸ窶氾ｧ窶堙�堋ｷ窶堋ｪﾂ、窶� 窶堙遺堋ｽ窶堙個鞘 倪堋｢窶堙�堋｢窶堙ｧ窶堙≫堋ｵ窶堙｡窶堙ｩ窶愿ｺ窶� {ﾅ津ｪ窶堙債渉ｬﾅ�wﾂ青ｶ窶堙娯堙�窶堙娯堙�堙坂堙 遺堋ｭ窶堙�、
窶愿�窶覇窶堙�ﾅ�ﾃ懌堙溪堙�静ｭ窶楼窶堙可青ｶ窶堙� 窶堙ｪ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙遺堙ｨ窶堋ｨ窶扼窶堙ｰﾂ渉｢窶堋ｵ窶 堋ｽ窶｢ﾃｻ窶堙娯堙�窶堙娯堙俄堋ｵ窶堋ｩﾅ陳ｩ窶堋ｦ窶� ﾃ懌堋ｹ窶堙ｱﾂ。
窶堋ｻ窶堙ｪ窶堙�ﾂ、窶堙ｦ窶堙吮堙�卍ｷ窶堋｢ﾅ�ﾃ披� ﾃｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰﾋ彙窶堋ｵ窶堙�堋｢窶堙遺堋｢窶堋ｩﾂ� A窶堙�窶堋ｵ窶堋ｭ窶堙坂｢ﾂｶﾂ湘坂堙ｰﾂ鞘倪堋ｭ窶堋ｱ 窶堙�堙俄牢窶堋ｭﾅ�ﾂｵ窶堙ｪ窶堙�堋｢窶堙遺堋｢窶 堋ｩ窶堙�堋ｿ窶堙ｧ窶堋ｩ窶堙個。
窶堋ｾ窶堋｢窶堋ｽ窶堋｢ﾂ渉ｬﾅ�wﾂ青ｶ窶堙債「窶愬停ｹﾅｾ� 凖ｩﾂ坂倪佚･ﾅ�wﾂ」窶堙遺堙ｱ窶堙�静ｭ窶楼窶堙娯 督ｼ窶楼窶堙坂冦窶堙ｨ窶堙懌堋ｹ窶堙ｱ窶堙ｦﾂ。
translation
by magoichisaika
Are you stating that I cannot write like a six grade elementary school pupil neither in Japanese, or in English? The reason is I'm away from Japan, I don't do much practice of kanji, vocabulary, or grammar in Canada. When I'll be entering a junior high school (as a ) first grade student, I'll be in need of reaching my one year lot of Japanese language to others' level. I know my English is very poor compared with the Canadian. Yet I'm sure I'll be able to use English as well as a high school student when I'm back to Japan.
Usually I'm not so weak about study, but I'm dreaming to enter Tokyo Imperial University in the future.
According to you, which grade of elememtary school my English and Japanese belongs to? Please give me frank answer.
by undrentide
Excuse me to say this, but the Japanese language you are using does not sound like something an elementary school child is writing but something written by an elderly person who was born before the war.
And the person either has not spoken Japanese for quite a long time, or is not very much used to writing.
Elementary school children should not know the name of "Tokyo Imperial University" which is the pre-war name (for today's "Tokyo University").
Last edited by undrentide; Dec 5, 2006 at 21:19.
窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙�堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ ﾅｽ窶樞堙債坂佛津ｪ窶 堙娯｢ﾃ冷ｹﾂｭ窶堙最停┐窶堋｢窶堙遺堙娯堙�堋ｷﾂ� B
ﾅｽc窶抂窶堙遺堋ｪ窶堙ｧ窶堙�堙ｪ窶堙�ﾂ「ﾂ坂佛津ｪ� 堙娯ｹﾃｪﾅｽﾃｨ窶堙按渉ｬﾅ�wﾂ青ｶﾂ」窶堙個鞘倪堋ｭ窶｢ ﾂｶﾂ湘坂堙�堙坂� 窶堙ｨ窶堙懌堋ｹ窶堙ｱ窶堙仰。
窶堋ｻ窶堙ｪ窶堙俄堙�堋ｱ窶堙ｫ窶堙�堋ｱ窶堙ｫﾂ、窶 堙�堙�堙�窶｢sﾅｽﾂｩ窶漏窶堙�堋ｷ窶堙ｦﾂ。
translation
by magoichisaika
Japanese. I don't like the study of Japnese.
by undrentide
I'm sorry to say that none (of your posts) is what "an elementary school boy who is not good at Japanese" would write.
And your Japanese is sometimes very unnatural (for a native speaker).
Last edited by undrentide; Dec 5, 2006 at 21:22.
Isnt there a Japanese language sub-forum for this kinda stuff?.
I dont mind Japanese in short bursts in posts or with a translation, but writing in just Japanese on the English part of the forum is very childish and rude, Yeah, I'm sorry I cant write or understand written Japanese, but neither can most here, and when we cant understand what someone is writing it can A) Be annoying and B) give the author a chance to write anything and we have no idea what it is.
I don't usually pick on people, honestly, but this is the weirdest kanji conversion I've ever seen in my life.
What is your parents' native language, then?
Yeah, dream on.
If only there were a university of that name in Japan.
Sorry nurizeko. I added translation so that non-Japanese speakers can understand what's going on.
This poster insists he is an 11 years old Japanese boy but his Japanese language is extremely weired.
1. Using difficult words and expressions which a boy of 11 years would never use
2. what he is mentioning (about Japanese-American soldiers, Tokyo Imperial University, etc.) is something a 11 years old would not think of. It sounds as if he knows the Japan before/immediately after the WWII.
3. yet there are many mistakes that even a elementary school pupil who is not good at writing or Japanese would not make
Normally I do not care so much about the poeple who falsify their identity, but he made such a disturbing statement as a Japanese about foreigners in Japan, I would like to know who he really is.
I even beginning to think that he might be a Japanese immigrant himself to North America before the war or in 1940s/1950s.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. I have no idea who our new friend is, but I am quite convinced that he is not who he says he is.
On the off chance that he is telling the truth, then I truly feel bad for him, as he will obviously have a difficult time readjusting to Japanese society.
But to answer his question, I don't think he writes like an elementary school student of any age, either in Japanese or English. If I had to guess based purely on the content, word usage, etc. that I've seen up to now, I suppose I would guess high school at least, although my first impression was that you are not a native speaker of Japanese, but rather of English, based on your long post in another thread. Of course, I don't know, so I will withold judgement, but you really don't present yourself in a way that fits the identity you want us to accept.
Do I smell McTojo? Looks awefully a lot like him.
~ Parempi hullu kuin tylsä - Better crazy than boring ~
http://www.fin-style.be/blog -> My Blog about Finland and other random thingies.
If it is McTojo, you have to admit, he's really starting to get creative!
Hey, isn't Magoichi Saika a video game character in Samurai Warrior? He helps defend the Ikko Ikki army and Shoukei. Sorry fella, but there is no such man as Magoichi Saika in real life because that is one of the fictious characters. Nobunaga, Ishikawa Goemon, Hattori Hanzo, etc, all did truly exist, but not Magoichi Saika. Please google Magoichi Saika, and you will see yourself!
Why not become someone like Deguchi Onidesaburo the founder of Oomoto Kyo, or Okada Kotama of Sukiyo Mahikari?
Even as an English lady, I could tell that this one came out straight out of Babblefish. It looks very unnatural, even for me. You need not be Japanese to figure this one out. I bet it is written by some old uneducated bloke living in some senior home who has nothing better to do.
But don't most of us use handle instead of real name?
To me his posts do not look like the result of text translation by babelfish - if it is, then I have to say babelfish did for once a great, remarkable job.
Babelfish is well known for its ability of creating unintelligible garbage.
---
Actually I don't care if he is pretending something he isn't. But I'm very much curious why he has such an opnion - I wonder what kind of experience made him feel like that.
Last edited by undrentide; Dec 6, 2006 at 00:59.
To answer the topic question: why become japanese?
There is no reason to be Japanese, unless you are born one.
After reading today, that has crossed my mind as well, but Mctojo never posted in Japanese, did he?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...Remember the Siruis Cybernetic Corportations motto: Share and Enjoy
Perhaps it's one of those trolls who is actually not Japanese but pretends to be? I suppose it could be McTojo or one of his cronies too...
窶� 窶堙遺堋ｽ窶堋ｪﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堋ｾ窶堙�陳ｾ窶堙≫堋ｽ窶堋ｱ窶堙固�X窶｢ﾃ窶堙昶堋ｪ
ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙�窶｢ﾃｩ窶堙ｪ窶堙�堙､窶堋ｫ窶堙懌堋ｷ
ﾂ広窶堋｢窶ｹﾃｳ窶堙�ｰ窶懌堋ｭ窶堙固ｽRﾂ々ﾂ 窶愿ｱﾂ人窶堙�｢ﾃ�窶堋｢窶堋ｽﾅ�X
窶納窶愿ｺ窶堋ｪ窶堋ｫ窶堙ｪ窶堋｢窶堙闇�X
-ﾂ森ﾂ坂堋静ｧ窶板｢窶堙個「窶從窶氾�青｣窶ｹﾂｴﾂ」窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ
窶堙�堋｢窶堙ｱ窶堋ｫ窶堋｡窶堋ｸ窶堙娯ｰﾂｮﾂ ﾂ～ﾂ ﾆ檀ﾆ辰ﾆ停愴鱈ﾂーﾆ炭窶堙娯愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙姑置ﾆ陳哉丹
Out of interest, how differently did people write back then?
Beats me,I wouldn't give up comfortable spacious single family home with nice lawn garden backyard and central heating/AC in America.
LOL a witch hunt here because this new poster made some valid points hit close to home for those have own ethnicity crisis in home country and seeking identity or social acceptance in Japan LOL
There are nationality fakers roam internet forums LOL,they come and go.
That's your opinion.
Once there is a reasonable doubt about someone pretending to be someone they are not, the content of their posts becomes invalid, at least it does to me. If said person is pretending about their identity, there's no reason to think they are being honest with the opinions put forth in their posts.
However, if this new poster is indeed who he says he is, I would like to help out. But I must be assured that the effort will not be in vain before I try. I will not waste my time trying to help someone who does not need it.
Hey, I find your comments highly offensive. We English have granted many of you Japanese our citizenship. Even the proud Americans gives them citizenship. I think if you live there for 5 years and have a steady job, and paying taxes, you should be allowed to have it. And for those so called "foreigners" born there, the right to Japanese nationality should exist without question. I see so much of how Japan wants all things western. I wish to say that if I marry my fiance, and if we choose to return to Japan, why should I not be allowed to become Japanese too, if he can and so can our child to come? In any other country, even the USA, would do this much. If the Japanese don't like shame, they should begin by moving on with the times as they seem to love progress and technology so much! My fiance by the way, agrees wholeheartedly to this idea.
By the way, I suspect You and Magoichi are either the same person, or very close friends. If you want to screw around, I suggest you do so on Answer 7 on Yahoo or something. This is not the place to do it, and you are only hurting your own reputation.
Last edited by bexchurnside; Dec 6, 2006 at 09:25. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
*I love 
Bookmarks