Japanese is my native language.
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Japanese is my native language.
voted for "Know the kanas, but still pretty much beginner":blush:
I know all the hiragana and i'm teaching myself katakana because my class moves too slow...
my japanese pronunciation in really bad...:(
i can introduce myself and i can point out objects and tell what they are and thats about it...:souka:
I had choose "know the kanas, but..." too.
I did learn all kana quickly (1 week to hiragana, 1 month to katakana because i was "dispersed" with my job), It´s easy I think.
After begin with usual expressions and grammar.
I can compose single sentences (but with a short vocabulary I think) in form masu/desu, use of adverbs and adjetives, etc.
This days, I am learning expressions with -te + iru/aru etc., although I´m quite beginner in verbs declinations and clasification on conjugation groups.
Fortunately I have a japanese friend-penpal who is learning spanish and we do language exchange by mail 3-4 times at month. It´s very useful to correct mistakes.
I´m teaching to myself with text downloaded from the net and a kanji method book, a grammar book and a dictionary, but i´m confused about that way I must take to learn japanese well. Then, I´m "anarchist" in my learning and this limits my progression. Any advice about this?
I have no much time to study, I work 10-14 hours daily as truck driver. I can only stud at some pauses between driving and I can´t concentrate rightly. At home, no much time more. I must sleep sometimes!
Today I learned the #100 kanji, but... I still don´t know how to pronounce the kanjis that I learn. I´m learning kanji with "Remembering tha Kanji" book.
It´s quick and secure to non forget it, but first teach the meaning and writing; the 2nd book will teach the reads. The order is not the most useful kanji, but with common elements.
So, I type in kana without kanji.
Oopss! No more time now
(I´m sorry if my poor english hurt your eyes, hehe)
はいはい!でも、少しです。
I haven't been studying that long.
I will start reading children's books soon. I'm still learning kanji.
I passed JLPT level 2 last year, but if I took it again this year, I'm sure I'd fail due to lack of study.
Regarding preparation, I think studying vocab. and doing plenty of mock tests before hand helped me get the grade. My listening comprehension rose significantly because of regular practice listening questions. Most of the mock stuff came from the "Nihongo Journal", a Japanese monthly publication that includes sample questions for preparation. Yamasa (my language school) subscribed to it so had plenty of old copies for me to use.
I also got a Kanji game for the PS2 (in Japan). I forget the name but allows you to practice for the main Kanji test at various levels. If I remember right, I could get level 6 or 7 on that. Although I did not sit that Kanji exam, I feel it helped a bit with the "Goi" section of JLPT that includes Kanji comprehension.
Regarding children's books... I have a translated version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and although I can follow the story it is quite difficult to fully understand. Reading books (as opposed to manga) should be quite useful for the reading part of JLPT.
I'm in between Level 2 and 3... i kinda failed my joyokanji exam (in university) recently... you shouldn't try studying 1000 kanji (I already know the other half) in 1 week... ^^;;; well... there'll be another chance soon... I'll be ready than... other than that, as long as I know the vocabs I usually am able to understand anything normal (like newspapers, etc) but when it comes to writing my own stuff or speaking... i really suck... >.< we seldom need it in university, so I lack practice...
For the language course I'm taking next years February they sended me a test for intermediate level but.. it was way to easy o_ô
I guess the biggest problem are the Kanji >_< (even they are a ot of help to make things clearer when it comes to understanding)
@Niedy: xD omg... I found a fellow student! Good luck for the test!!
I know a ton of words.
Quite a few songs off by heart.
And some phrases here and there.
I want to become as fluent as I can though. :-)
Watashi wa nihongo o hanasimasu. Nihongo wa kari masuka?
I took a few classes and in a year or so I'm going to take another. Right now I'm practicing on my own.
I've studied Japanese for nearly 4 years. I've taken several classes, and at a Japanese Language Immersion camp, I was in the most advanced class.
I don't consider myself by any means an expert, but I do tutor a few students in Japanese.
Did three years at college, but didn't learn to say much.
ok me and japanese learning isnt that good i always wanted to know how to speek in japanese but my mum wont let me she dosnt even want me to go there ( dont know y tho TT__TT) but i know like hello and sorry and cute lol thats it TT__TT but i want need to know more tho.
I just know a few words and phrases, stuffs like that. But I'm trying~
I know all the hiragana, a big amount of katakana, some usefull expressions and words, basic grammar and basic particles. but I maybe know like a handfull of kanji so I cant read japanese (even if its written in hiragana, I still lack vocabulary). Anyway I started like a month ago, so its pretty normal.
I can read hiragana and katakana, I know the basic grammar. I also recognize about 300-400 kanji, but I know only their meanings - I can't read them. My vocabulary is rather tiny, though.
I can read 'kana and an uncountable number of kanji, but I do not write it very well at all. However I can speak the language rather well.
I only know some phrases. I don't really know how to write in kanji, katana and hiragana^ ^ Only romanji^ ^
hi there! i'm an enthusiastic beginner in learning japanese...hehe...you know what, i took japanese as one of my subject in my B Ed. TESL degree...frankly speaking, it's quite hard but if u're really inerested to getting know them better then all things will be going smooth...God's willing...=)
now i would like to learn mandarin as well since my grandmother is a chinese...but she don't know how to speak chinese because she was raised by a Malay family before she got married with my handsome grandfather - a Malay man...hehehe...in Malaysia, mixed marriage inter multiracial is a normal matter...
p/s:who wants to learn Malay from me??? -wink-
i no a greeting or 2 hi/bye and sum other words.... i voted "Just a few words or phrases (greetings, etc)"
dont no how 2 read or write/type it
話せることは話せるんですがまだまだだね。もっと練習した方がいいと思うよ。でも、練習すると人がいないん 。
I speak a little Japanese, but there really isn't anyone to practice with so I'm not as good as I'd like to be obviously. I'm taking a language course at school right now though so hopefully that will help remedy the problem somewhat.
Deborah, it seems tough to us, many of having BA's in Japanese couldn't best them, if we even tried. If these folks go to cram school and work their best in their mother tougue vs us, well, you can guess. But then, you go to Japan, and see that these so called English teachers have a terrible command of the English language. I know many high school students would draw circles over them. So the same is simply reversed. They would think what are we doing with an entire BA with less than what the Japanese get for their minimum educational requirement. These kids have it in their bones to learn.
You know, many envy our English skills that are recongized worldwide. Japanese on the other hand is pretty much useless outside of either Japan or in situations outside of Japan, outside of Japanese corporate environment.
Even in Sao Paulo or Hawai'i, the Nikkeijin do speak English adequately enough that we really don't need to learn Japanese to get around.
The Japanese also do not ever expect us to try taking them on in the language sparing game. I talk here in competitive terms, as that is their way of thinking. Only the Kikokushijo is made to play catch up, and in some cases, the Nikkeijin who have citizenship. Many of them do go through the daunting task of playing catch up, but we need not envy. My boyfriend said that he was forced into the game where he is made to learn to not get socially outcasted, and have a good job. And many of them learn Japanese out of necessity and duty, and not out of interest like many of us do, choosing this culture. Theirs being choiceless, or almost choiceless makes the task while apparently easier to do than for us, less enjoyable, with the love of it more often than not, absent. When your hair is strawberry blond like mine, even slightly unnatural but so so well spoken Japanese is only applauded by them.
So let them be, and we do what we do in our own category.
私はちょっと日本語を分かります。
それに、日本語で書くが難しいです。
nobody to practice with. so even i know the basic grammar structures, probably i will no be able to go to higher level :(
just like jackkrone, i mastered hiragana, but i dont understand the rules for katakana. the only problem for learning the kanji and vocabulary is memory matter. can't remember things that fast. must practice everyday. but once again, nobody to practice with so i won't know if i'm making mistakes :?
I do not know much of the words, to tell anyone here the truth. It's a fact that I pick up some words and kanji from friends in Nihon, but I never really learned much of the grammar, but indeed relying on replacing words in sentences I somehow memorize when my Japanese friends are talking in their native tongue. I'd love to learn Japanese and go to Japan one day, as well as learn some from several Japanese people here. ^.^
I desire to learn at least a basic Japanese so much. It seems no way at the moment. I have some books and dictionaries but need to practice with some Japanese through corresponding.
Hi how you guys doing. I desire to improve my japanese conversation skills. I have sub par lvl 4 jplt understanding of grammar, therefore I failed the test by 5%. Plan to take it again this year so if anyone wants to just shot grammar points, vocabulary, questions or just conversation I'm game. Oh and my roma-ji (romanized japanese) is not that great. Ganbatte kudasai.
just a few basic words,that's all
i'm learning korean at the moment.
shall start japanese when i complete my korean courses.
i want to learn japanese but it looks so hard im going next year and i dont want to be a lost tourist
Beginner even sounds to advanced for me! I know some simple phrases. I know how to spell my last name as well. That's about it. I am learning though. :)
more than greetings, but below sentence constructions. -simple sentences only- i will accept all the help i can take~ domo arigato :D
i'm a so/so person. my grandparents speak japanese and claim that my japanese is horrible, but i think i'm improving now that i'm taking lessons from an awesome teacher. i might get a 80% on jlpt 4 test if i'm lucky:p.
I speak japanese more or less like a child - thats why people call me Han chan.:wave:
Level 3 JLPT3 really considered intermediate? I find that kinda hard to believe. I am just under level 3 with grammar and vocab, but I only know about 120 Kanji so far.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. But when you consider that so many of the people who use this site do not live in Japan and are more interested in the culture than serious study, you can see why the poll is heavily weighted towards beginner levels.
I would categorize a low pass of JLPT 3 as lower intermediate. A very high pass as middle intermediate. A just fail of JLPT 2 as high intermediate. And a pass of JLPT 2 as the first step to advanced.
But of course its an entirely arbitrary category.
I agree with Mike about how the Levels are assessed, at least in this thread. (Can't someone do something about how the levels are described?)
In terms of functionality and practical usage in the native Japanese-speaking environment, I think Level 3 and lower are regarded rudimentary. Level 2 is basic language usage (maybe intermediate, if the word has to be used), and Level 1 is "nearest to native" but not native level YET (unless you score near-perfect or perfect)... :blush: