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Sukotto
UK, France, Russia. That looks like 3 to me. Since the majority of Russian political power/population is west of the Ural mountains (in Europe).
Alright, letfs narrow it down to gWestern Europeh, I didnft consider Russia as gEuropeh because it is not part of the EU.
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Well, how many stolen elections have Russian and China had in the last 7 years?
Is this supposed to be a joke? You cannot consider any election held in the Peoplefs Republic of China as genuine, thus all can be considered as stolen. In Russia itfs either 1 stolen election or 0. This depends on who you ask about Putins policy.
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Have any of those two lied to their populations to start a war of aggression.
If you consider the war in Chechnya (by Russia) or the war against your very own people (by China) a war of aggression...
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Or are involved in just about every other ongoing war of conflict in some way or another?
Yes, in some way or another they are involved via the UN Security Council
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This last sentance few people in the US are aware about.
Obviously.
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Do China & Russia maintain a militarist society even though they have no REAL enemies?
Yes, even more so than the US, imho.
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while maintaining tHE largest prison population on the planet, tossing addicts in cages,
No, but they have the highest number of people executed. Which is worse at least in my opinion.
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health care falling apart (when will the first American epidemic sweep the country? they've already LET an entire city drown)
What health care?! Their hospitals are a joke in comparison! And itfs more the rule than the exception that Chinese cities drown.
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letting cities rot from the inside with the only solution from gov't to militarize the police forces (with automatic weapons and body armor they look like they belong in a combat zone).
Youfve never been in either country, have you?
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they don't care if kids in the inner city drop out of school in the 4TH~! grade (this is the current generations, not 60 years ago)
Depending on where you go (especially in China) children do not attend school at all.
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But, hey, at least those people that drop out in the 4th grade tend to realize the US gov't is a total crock and not there to help the populous (unless maybe you're upper middle class and probably white) - notice I didn't state "Bush".
Since you obviously hold the same opinions as these drop-outs, does it mean that youfve dropped out of the 4th grade yourself? (Sorry, I had to say that, please donft take it seriously... I was just kidding.)
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Unless you maintain that a country is not a "failed state" as long as there is a government that can remain in power and maintain a lid on the problems by any means necessary...if the maintenance of gov't is all that makes it NOT a failed state, then sure the US is not a failed state. Everything's A-ok. Just get those Hi-definition tvs out there quick. The spectacle is starting to fail.
You should travel around more often. Try Cuba thatfs not that far off. If you are particularly brave go to Africa (not the tourist regions... try the Democratic Republic of the Congo). Or visit Russia and China yourselfc