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A ke bono kane kotto
Mar 25, 2008, 23:22
I heard many times that the Japanese consider it bad manner if a girl/woman apply make-up in public, for example in a train or metro. I don't feel bothered by it. In fact, I find it rather charming. I much prefer seeing a girl making herself pretty than an old man picking his nose in public. In the metro in Tokyo there are signs for "prohibited behaviours", like fighting, drinking alcohol, talking loudly on the phone, and applying make-up. I really don't get why this last one is bad etiquette. Is it just me ? How do you feel about it ?

Pachipro
Mar 25, 2008, 23:43
Personally I do not find it to be bad manners, but probably many Japanese do as many (not all!) Japanese feel that a woman should not leave the house without make-up on and to put it on in public would be "bad manners".

Also, there are many a Japanese high school girl who, once they leave school, will, leave their school clothers in a public locker at a train station and may put on make-up in public on their way to partying with their friends. Perhaps this is why it is shunned? I do not know. Maybe others will chime in with more pertinent information.

However, like you, if I see a woman putting on make-up, or "brushing up" on a public transportation system, it does not bother me at all, but conveys to me that she wants to look her best for whomever she is meeting and therefore I overlook it. It just seems natural to me.

JimmySeal
Mar 26, 2008, 00:12
I once knew a (fairly chauvinistic) English fellow who found the idea of a female applying makeup on the train. "Why should I have to look at you without all your makeup done?" was his attitude.

I don't find anything the least bit wrong with someone doing their makeup in public. It's a whole lot better than a lot of the stuff (public urination, spitting, loudly clearing one's throat) that I see around here.

Dutch Baka
Mar 26, 2008, 09:26
I don't care at all. As long as they are silent and not spraying their hairspray over me or something like that.

There are other things that are bothering me in the train though (boys making up, calling on the phone and people who don't stand up for a pregnant lady), but girls making up... why should I be bothered.

Mars Man
Mar 26, 2008, 09:38
It's totally fine with me too ! (in fact, I wouldn't mind if they changed clothes on the train too...hee, hee, hee......{ouch !! a slap upside the head by my little lady})

A few girls at the uni will do it in the morning classes, and that doesn't bother me either. My seminar girls, some of them, at least, will do it in my office during that period of time, and I don't mind at all...it's kind of like I am one of 'the girls' almost.

Putting on makeup is an art, and I enjoy that element, so, in fact I sometimes direct them or compliment them on a job well done. So if a girl or lady (or even a guy) is painting her/his face on the train or in public, I enjoy the work of the artist.

kireikoori
Mar 26, 2008, 10:00
Personally, I think most girls look better without make-up on.
And sometimes seeing them put on make-up in public just irritates me. It's like it's a constant reminder in my face that women put on make-up, something I don't much like.

And not only do they wear it, it seems like some women are obsessed with it!

I stand stand it when people put in make-up while driving. Now that just really makes me angry, it's bad enough they think they have to put on make-up to look pretty, but they endanger other people by putting on make-up when driving!

Yeah, I think it's stupid that women wear make-up to look pretty when men don't. All that heavy make-up looks unnatural and weird.

I dunno, maybe it's just my general aggravation with gender roles. I'm not a misogynist or a misandrist, I just hate gender.

I don't think applying make-up in public should be disallowed though.

moffeltoff
Mar 26, 2008, 11:51
If shes putting on make up for me Im fine with it....

Tokis-Phoenix
Apr 1, 2008, 02:57
It doesn't bother me at all, in fact i've done it myself so i would be hypocritical to have something against other girls who do it.
What is annoying though is when you're on a really long train journey and the person sitting next to you is also on a long journey, except throughout the entire thing they decide to text and chat on their mobile phone 24/7 while they have their 3 course meal that they've brought along (which just has to contain really noisy or crumby food like crisps and cake) and take up your side of the arm rest while they're at it.

Mycernius
Apr 1, 2008, 04:42
Doesn't bother me, and to tell the truth better than a man doing his make-up, which I have seen.:souka:

Derfel
Apr 1, 2008, 04:52
Must have been this kind of guy.
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/420/busourenkin1713nk9.jpg

Btw, this is Papillon (Koushaku Chouno) from Busou Renkin.

MadamePapillon
Apr 1, 2008, 06:36
:(:( Oh hells no :(:(

Goldiegirl
Apr 1, 2008, 07:35
I don't mind if anyone wants to put their make-up on while on the train. I don't do that though as I don't have a steady hand to begin with, I can only imagine how my make-up would look if I put it on while on a train or any moving form of transportation. Also I use loose powder make-up so it's hard to manage and I wouldn't want to puff anyone with it, that wouldn't be nice!

pjpg
Apr 22, 2008, 22:28
I think it's great when people are not ashamed of showing feelings :)

hideway
Apr 22, 2008, 22:48
Certainly almost no one in Portugal would have a problem with a woman or girl making up in the metro. I find it as natural or as insulting as reading a book. I doesn't really bother anyone and I find it awkward to see that such rules were invented and imposed by someone only by arbitrary will.

Although I've to agree with kireikoori, most women really look better without all that stuff on their face.

That and high heels shoes.
*hides* (please don't hit me :p)

Tokis-Phoenix
Apr 22, 2008, 22:52
Although I've to agree with kireikoori, most women really look better without all that stuff on their face.

That and high heels shoes.
*hides* (please don't hit me :p)


Eh i agree with you there, makeup can do so much to improve a woman's looks, i don't know why some women seem to never bother to use the stuff.

I always put on a bit of makeup when i go out; i know some people will probably disagree when i say this, but i think its just as important to make yourself look nice as it is to make yourself smell nice.

hideway
Apr 22, 2008, 22:57
Psst, actually I'm one of those persons. (I was really agreeing with kireikoori).

I do agree with you with the need to smell nice though. That certainly leaves a good impression. (just don't overdo it!) :P

Kirakira1232
May 9, 2008, 17:35
Funnily enough I dont see many women here in Australia "touch up" while they're in public or on the trains. I think most women prefer to do that in the bathroom...in groups of two or three lol.

I wouldnt be offended by it though...there are MUCH worser things I have seen people do on trains...esspecially late at night >_>

kireikoori
May 12, 2008, 10:55
MadamePapillon and Tokis-Phoenix defending make-up?
Weren't you two attacking sexism in the kawaii thread earlier?
And then getting offended at a man doing it?

Make-up is the result of women being objectified more than men.
I'm Libertarian, and I believe people should be able to do what they want. Including putting make-up on in public of course.

But am I ok with the fact women are so heavily objectified that they believe they have to put on make-up to look good?
Heck no!

Derfel
May 12, 2008, 17:24
Its just not good imo, exactly like earrings, I don't like them. A face clean of all that rubbish looks so much better...
Wait, you must have seen those diamonds some chaps put in their teeth, right? Lol, now thats the worst, dunno if it should be considered jewelry or make-up, but Its really the worst and most dodgy thing I can think of.

Goldiegirl
May 13, 2008, 15:48
Guys "scratch" in public! :D That's way worse than make-up!:blush:

FrustratedDave
May 13, 2008, 16:44
It bothers me b/c they are usually the ones who won't get out of their seats for the elderly, too busy making their faces so they can be truely superficial.:blush:

Derfel
May 13, 2008, 18:00
Guys "scratch" in public! :D That's way worse than make-up!:blush:

Hmm, when I one of those "fashion dolls and/or super conservative" folks, I often start tilt my head left and right quickly, or start scratching my head violently, like a cat or dog (with my hand ofc.).
Its nice to see their reaction, if nothing works, I just spit on the ground lol.

Just to prove you right :D

lilbeemail
May 13, 2008, 19:47
It doesn't bother me, but I always can't help but think, if the train jerks suddenly will she accidentally poke herself in the eye with her mascara? Or smear lipstick over her cheek? :hihi:

Goldiegirl
May 14, 2008, 05:53
You know FrustratedDave not all old people want you to give your seat up to them. My husband did that for a very tiny, frail looking elderly woman and I thought she was going to beat him with her shopping bag for offering his seat. She was so mad that he thought she was weak. I bet she used to put makeup on while traveling the train! :)

gaijinalways
May 14, 2008, 12:53
Personally, I don't mind if they do it in the train. When they start doing it during class (not before or after), then I get annoyed.

tokapi
May 17, 2008, 14:44
Huh.. I thought J girls wouldn't leave home without makeup :?

ASHIKAGA
May 17, 2008, 17:25
Those of you who have tried applying make up on a train know you'd have to be an experienced maker-upper as you have to deal with the train's movement as well as your fellow passengers who can be so distracting when you're trying to make a perfect outline of your lower lip. I just watch and learn. If I see someone whose lipstick or the eye-shadow I really like, I might even ask her which shade it is and make a mental note of it. She most likely would just ignore me and try not to make eye-contact with me, which is very rude. That is why I think she should get over herself and do it somewhere else.

As someone wrote, men do scratch themselves in public but they are more likely to be courteous when approached. One out of 10 scratchers would ask me out when I go up to them and make a comment about their scratching.

dreamer
May 17, 2008, 21:18
Personally, I am much more disturbed bothered when eating ramens in front of someone who slurps them :D
There are always drops that end up on my face :D

Han Chan
May 18, 2008, 07:34
I really don't care, but I hate having to listen to other peoples private telephone conversations. Furtunately, in Japan most people respect the "manner" rules and refrain from speaking on phone in trains.

MadamePapillon
May 18, 2008, 12:07
Isn't this the exact reason compacts were invented...so you can do your makeup on the go?

I saw a girl putting makeup on while riding the skytrain today, the only reaction me and my girlfriends had was to admire her steady hand. That takes talent and 'balls' of steel .... you could easily lose an eye to the mascara brush.

Zoon van Ijs
May 18, 2008, 16:54
Personally, I don't mind if they do it in the train. When they start doing it during class (not before or after), then I get annoyed.

I agree. I'd get annoyed too if it were in class, or in a workplace (class is a workplace too anyway), during work time. But other than that, I wouldn't care at all. :haihai:

epigene
May 18, 2008, 18:06
Isn't this the exact reason compacts were invented...so you can do your makeup on the go?
I still think you use it in the girls' room...

I saw a girl putting makeup on while riding the skytrain today, the only reaction me and my girlfriends had was to admire her steady hand. That takes talent and 'balls' of steel .... you could easily lose an eye to the mascara brush.
On a bad day, I seriously wish it will happen, and the girls will stop doing it... :p
Imagine the sight of a girl doing it in a cramped train, pushing people around her for elbow room to get her eye makeup right... :blush:

JMoon
May 18, 2008, 23:34
Yep I don't mind either..but then again I grew up in the US...and it's pretty common here.
I don't like when they try to apply makeup when driving a car.

ganeshgiri
May 19, 2008, 05:00
i dont care it and no one brother me

Derfel
May 19, 2008, 05:15
Lol, you know what? If they mind that I mind it, than I'll mind it lol! HAR HAR HAR HAR
Im teh evul from hell, the loli to rule the world and piss people off on trains and other mass transport vehicles!

Bunshinsaba
Jun 28, 2008, 05:07
I find it rather charming. I much prefer seeing a girl making herself pretty than an old man picking his nose in public.

I have always thought that way as well.

In a city of tight quarters over run with huge concrete ugliness and social congestion, anything people can do to bring a little beauty into my view - if even for a short train ride - gets the thumbs up from me.

΂
Jun 28, 2008, 10:43
I think some just do it for attention. Why would some one wait till they're in public to do their makeup. If they were just crying or the weather was bad, i could understand. But, i don't understand why anyone would wait until they're in public to apply makeup, unless they want to be seen putting on makeup. I wouldn't take offence from that person, but i would frown upon the behavior as sluttish, but that's just how i am. However, i would be much more leaniant if other makeup was already applied, showing that the person may have been in a hurry and forgot something.

Bunshinsaba
Jun 28, 2008, 16:41
I think some just do it for attention. Why would some one wait till they're in public to do their makeup. If they were just crying or the weather was bad, i could understand. But, i don't understand why anyone would wait until they're in public to apply makeup, unless they want to be seen putting on makeup.
If you mean the attention of other girls - ie competition... then perhaps you are right.

Generally, girls apply make-up in the train for a varitey of reasons and under as equally many circumstances.

The biggest is time management. Doing your make-up while commuting on a train elimates the extra effort of doing it at home, especially if you wake up late or are a habitually late riser.

By and large, however, most girls who apply make-up in the train are simply doing a "touch up". Certain fashion-hungry, style-worshipping high school girls are extremely competitive amongst their peers and feel the need to visual trump them when shopping in trendy areas like Shibuya, Shinjuku, etc. Having that perfect hair and spit-shine make-up assures higher profile.

Certain types of Japanese girls are obsessive about their esthetic value in peer situations. The district of Shibuya has over 800 hair salons - a testament to the importance of image for some girls, and boys for that matter.

High school girls are also fanatical about their hair and make-up before going to see their favorite band at a live house. This too will prompt girls to put on make-up or even curl their hair with portable irons while on the train. And then again at the live house right up until the very second their favouite band comes on.

All I can say is that - and it's no secret - Japanese big cities are home to the most image conscious girls in the world.

΂
Jun 28, 2008, 16:53
It's times like this, that i retract my statement about how i wish i was a girl so i wouldn't have to have any balls... I've truthefully never understood how makeup can make one more beautiful, but i guess that's because i'm so much of a purist about many things.

Bunshinsaba
Jun 29, 2008, 02:17
It's times like this, that i retract my statement about how i wish i was a girl so i wouldn't have to have any balls... I've truthefully never understood how makeup can make one more beautiful, but i guess that's because i'm so much of a purist about many things.

From ancient tribes to present day women and girls, make-up has always been used (by women) throughout history with the notion that it makes one beautiful or alluring, or that it is a reflection of their status. Understanding its use and the connection to beauty has nothing to do with being a purist .

bakaKanadajin
Jun 29, 2008, 05:47
Pretty girls don't bother me one bit.

If people send email, read, study, sleep, etc., and do other things on the train that the busy Japanese lifestyle doesn't permit a wealth of time for, what's the big deal with make up? I'd much rather watch a girl put on make up than watch some frumpy salary man sweat over his porn manga.

Yan
Jun 29, 2008, 08:08
I heard many times that the Japanese consider it bad manner if a girl/woman apply make-up in public, for example in a train or metro. I don't feel bothered by it. In fact, I find it rather charming. I much prefer seeing a girl making herself pretty than an old man picking his nose in public. In the metro in Tokyo there are signs for "prohibited behaviours", like fighting, drinking alcohol, talking loudly on the phone, and applying make-up. I really don't get why this last one is bad etiquette. Is it just me ? How do you feel about it ?

I don't see any problem even I like that! I also would like to see them changing their clothes on the metro if they wish... :-) :blush::relief:

Bunshinsaba
Jun 29, 2008, 17:12
I don't see any problem even I like that! I also would like to see them changing their clothes on the metro if they wish... :-) :blush::relief:
Hey now!!! I'm down with that. What I wouldn't give to see a gyaru change her slinky clothes on the train.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m311/KimInSook/smell.jpg

Alma
Jun 29, 2008, 17:24
In the metro in Tokyo there are signs for "prohibited behaviours", like fighting, drinking alcohol, talking loudly on the phone, and applying make-up.

there is really sign for that? I havent seen it so far!

btw, I do not mind. at first I was suprised, but now I even see it really rarely... I dont mind, if they dont mind me looking at the process... (and may I say, some of those girls actually make themselves look much worse after:blush::okashii:)

ec_nana
Sep 29, 2008, 11:04
Making up is pretty alright. Aint nothing when compared to scratching pubic areas, digging noses, snoring etc...

alexlovesrock
Jan 5, 2009, 00:54
really? yeah i think its cute it doenst matter at all!! good that she cares about her appearance... shouldnt care what others think on the subway anyway

maushan3
Jan 18, 2009, 11:42
I don't mind girls doing that. What I don mind are guys doing it.

I was once on a train and see "two girls" sitting together and one of them was wearing sport pants. This person had long bleached hair and was super skinny with a "girly jacket", well this person was covering "her" face with a hello kitty mirror doing "her makeup" and joking with the other girl. And then the train made a sudden stop and both of them get up and that's when I found out it was a guy. How could hot Japanese girls like these super skinny dudes doing their nails all the time?

Mauricio

Nall-ohki
Jan 19, 2009, 02:45
Forget makeup, I'm more bothered when there's a hooker doing tricks in front of me on the train (happened Friday night).

Emoni
Jan 19, 2009, 05:59
^ lol wtf Nall! I think you need to explain a bit more details on what this is referring too :D

FrustratedDave
Jan 19, 2009, 17:54
That takes talent and 'balls' of steel ....
Now that is a bit of an oxymoron...

Riona-Chan
Jun 2, 2009, 08:50
I do it everyday before I go to work because I am just too Lazy to get up earlier to apply my make-up.
I mean I sit in the train to work +- 35 min everyday so it is a perfect way to kill time.
HOWEVER I do not do this in Japan.
I am a "gaijin" so people allready watch my moves closer so I make sure that I don't want to attrack extra attention by doing stuff like that.

MyNoteToSelf
Jul 31, 2009, 08:19
I wouldn't mind if they (guys or girls..) were doing a little touch-up, some lipstick/gloss and a coat of mascara, maybe eyeliner. But if they were to get out lash-curlers, foundations, glitter, etc...that'd be annoying and distracting, spreading the fumes of chemicals on a crammed train, possibly endangering someones' health.

Maybe the law is for people who are allergic to such things, they don't want the fresh bottles open around them?

Gyabuchaa
Mar 30, 2010, 00:46
The French like girls who take care of their looks. Better a girl obsessed with make-up than one that looks like an old rag. :)

Zoon van Ijs
Mar 30, 2010, 01:20
The French like girls who take care of their looks. Better a girl obsessed with make-up than one that looks like an old rag. :)


Well said! :cool:

Paruru
May 21, 2013, 19:55
I actually don't see any problems with it.
Some people just don't have the time to do it at home, so they do it in the train.
And nobody else cares actually unlike in some other western countries like Germany where you will be stared at from entering the train till you sit on your seat some time... I hate that.