Guardian Unlimited : Japan's asbestos time bomb
Yet another frightening health-related scandal. It is hard to believe that Japan is a so-called developed country when we hear such stories. To put in relations with :Originally Posted by Guardian
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I don't think Japan is that much worse in that regard than other industrialised countries. In Germany, asbestos use was prohibited in 1993. An EU-wide ban has come into existence only in 2005. The number of asbestos related deaths in Germany was 1068 in 2003. IIRC, usage in very restricted circumstances is still allowed.
According to Wikipedia, asbestos production was prohibited since 1978 in the US and the last houses using it were uilti in 1986, almost 20 years ago.
From a quick Google search, it seems that houses with asbestos were not built after the mid-80s in the UK as well. This article from the Guardian also shows a British viewpoint, and mentions that Britain alreday warned Japan about asbestos danger as early as the mid-70's.Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Asbestos was banned in 1980 in Belgium, and the substance was subsequently removed from buildings such as the Berlaymont in Brussels (where the EU Commission is based).
Interestingly, the French-version of Wikipedia on the matter says that Germany banned asbestos in the late 1980's after the Scandinavian countries.
So, I suppose that 1993 was the date of the total ban on all kind of asbestos, but there could have been an earlier ban. For example, in France, the first ban was in 1977 but the total ban did not come until 1997. If Germany didn't not ban any kind of asbestos before 1993, then it was well behind the US, UK, France or Belgium regarding asbestos legislation. Japan is well behind anyway, as the first ban was introduced in 1995 (about 20 years after the US, UK or France), and the total ban only came this year, i.e. 12 years after Germany.
Acc. to my information the US still hasn't a real asbestos ban. Perhaps they banned only particular usage.Originally Posted by Maciamo
I looked it up as well, & I found at least 4 dates for prohibition in Germany: 1989/90/93/95, 1993 being the date of a chrysotile ban (Belgium was actually later than Germany on chrysotile). Now I found a page which has a nice chronology on asbestos prohibition:Interestingly, the French-version of Wikipedia on the matter says that Germany banned asbestos in the late 1980's after the Scandinavian countries.
International Ban Asbestos Secretariat
The 1st ban:
1983 Iceland introduces ban (with exceptions) on all types of asbestos (updated in 1996)
other interesting dates:
1993 Germany introduces ban (with minor exemptions) on chrysotile, amosite and crocidolite having been banned previously.
1995 Japan Bans crocidolite and amosite
1996 France introduces ban (with exceptions) on chrysotile
1998 Belgium introduces ban (with exceptions) on chrysotile
2005 Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Lithuania, Malta, Portugal and Slovakia to prohibit the new use of chrysotile, other forms of asbestos having been banned previously, under EU deadline
I suppose, since there are different forms of asbestos & many ways to use it, it's no wonder that there is a bit confusion as to the exact dates of prohibition.
http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/ban.htmlOriginally Posted by bossel
All new use was banned here in 1991. Additionally, all flooring felt and rollboard must be removed from any building. Just as an aside, my father is an attorney and his firm has had no shortage of asbestos cases taken to court and won. Even though technically asbestos clothing is not illegal here, if you sell it you are probably going to be sued.
Thanks for the link, but to clarify: As I understand it, asbestos is only banned "in products that have not historically contained asbestos" & the mentioned exceptions. Therefore, there is probably no effective ban on asbestos in the US. & court cases can probably be avoided by putting the right warning labels on products containing the stuff.Originally Posted by cicatriz esp
Buildings that contain asbestos in the US are fine until the asbestos is in danger of being "disturbed" or caused to become airborne. Thus, unless damage is caused to the building or renovations are to be made, people may not know if there is even asbestos there. Where I work, each time a new area becomes subject of renovation, we have to test surfaces for asbestos (walls, overheads, floor tiles) then if asbestos is present we go forward with abatement procedures. Until then it just sits dormant and undisturbed.
I imagine that anytime an earthquake strong enough to "disturb" the asbestos (when roofs are damaged or buildings collpase) there is a serious health hazard for the whole neighbourhood or even city. Japan being more prone to earthquakes to almost any other developed country, the risk of having a cloud of asbestos flying over a city hit by a powerful earthquake is very real. Imagine that if a 5-year old child survives a major earthquake, he or she might die from lung cancer when they are 25 because of the high level of asbestos released into the air during the earthquake.Originally Posted by CC1
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Ahh but you are talking of a severe situation, and not just general dangers of having asbestos. The dangers in Japan are not the same as they would be in say...Kansas? It is unproven that a severe one time exposure would lead to eventual death. Long time repeated exposures are usually more dangerous. But I do agree that your scenario is at the least troublesome.
Unproven ? How do you explain that construction workers handling or removing asbestos have to wear a full protective wear and oxygen masks like the ones they wear in radiated areas or doctors treating patients contaminated with extremely contagious virus. Check pictures here. I read that just inhaling asbestos contaminated air once is enough to develop diseases such as lung cancer.Originally Posted by CC1
No & yes. AFAIK, it has been shown that inhaling even 1 fibre of asbestos may lead to cancer (& perhaps eventual death). That's simply a matter of probability, though. The more inhaled fibres & the longer the exposure, the greater the risk.Originally Posted by CC1
FYI, chrysotile, or white asbestos, is the least dangerous form of asbestos.Originally Posted by bossel
I have found this article in the news today : Mainichi Shimbun : Japan to sign 1986 Asbestos Convention
If 27 countries have already signed the convention and that does not include the US and Russia, I suppose that most European countries have signed it.Originally Posted by Mainichi
I wonder if this is a functional translation of ςUAscattered or dispersed asbestos particles which has been the focus of Japanese cleanup efforts. @Originally Posted by CC1
From a headline last weekend, for instance, the Department of Education is less than one percent finished surveying schools for "free floating" molecules and to date has found 199 classrooms and 142 schools at risk. It's unfortunately not a great shock in Japan but still unbelievable that asbestos manufacturers could pay off government officials over a period of more than two decades to keep it unbanned and as available as possible.
What more these people need to realize the danger? Are these deaths worthless? That's a shame, we are talking about human rights here not being respected. Mesothelioma Law Suits have become very popular lately becuase they are associated whit success and victim compensations. You should seriously think about that.The material has been blamed for thousands of deaths, and has condemned its victims to years of suffering from lung cancer, pneumoconiosis and mesothelioma, a cancer of the chest and abdominal cavities of which asbestos inhalation is the only known cause.
you DO realize that the post you quoted was penned over 2 years ago, don't you? If you want to rekindle this conversation, I suggest you find some up-to-date material about asbestos in Japan.
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